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pfraze commented on Self-Guaranteeing Promises stephango.com/self-guaran... · Posted by u/tie-in

immibis · 15 days ago

bsky.app is the way that people view bluesky posts. That is a fact and it will continue to be the fact for the useful lifetime of bluesky. If bsky.app dies, so does bluesky because it is bsky.app.

pfraze · 3 days ago

Except that the bluesky posts - all of the content and data - is not permanently associated with bluesky.

pfraze commented on Bluesky Goes Dark in Mississippi over Age Verification Law wired.com/story/bluesky-g... · Posted by u/BallsInIt

Forbo · 3 days ago

Edit: I mistook the bsky.sh domain, my bad. Can't get strike through to work for the life of me. I give up.

~~Bluesky blocked in Mississippi, try to work around it, only for the resource that tells you how to do this to be hosted on Bluesky, which is blocked. That's... suboptimal~~.

I can't help but feel like Bluesky is just three corporations in a trenchcoat pretending to be an open federated ecosystem.

pfraze · 3 days ago

Bluesky is just one corporation in a trenchcoat.

pfraze commented on Bluesky Goes Dark in Mississippi over Age Verification Law wired.com/story/bluesky-g... · Posted by u/BallsInIt

Forbo · 3 days ago

In theory, but is that actually the case today? I couldn't find any information about the current state of federation for Bluesky.

Contrast this with Mastodon which already has a vibrant federated ecosystem.

pfraze · 3 days ago

Yes, it is the case today. Its not a huge proportion, but there are thousands on external servers, and we recently had a nice sized migration to blacksky

pfraze commented on Bluesky Goes Dark in Mississippi over Age Verification Law wired.com/story/bluesky-g... · Posted by u/BallsInIt

Hizonner · 3 days ago

... but any replacement you build will, in practice, have to include a single centralized "relay" that aggregates all content. Since that's a lot of content, it has to be run by a big, easily found, easily pressured organization. And everybody "porting their accounts across" means a flag day that's going to be almost impossible to organize in practice. It'd effectively be just as much work as switching to an entirely new protocol.

Maybe you could theoretically have an AT "app view" that takes data from multiple relays, but nothing in the implementation does anything to support that, and as far as I know nothing in the protocol does anything to help it discover the relays... which in practice means that even if you extend the app views to use multiple relays, there will never be more than a handful of relays with meaningful reach.

The AT protocol is at best a really crappy excuse for decentralization. And frankly a pretty poor example of open source too, given the usability and organization of the code they release.

Compare with, say, Nostr, which is actually decently decentralized... but, in not-unrelated news, suffers from massive content discovery problems. Or compare with Briar, which is even more decentralized but has both discovery and scaling problems. Or for that matter Usenet.

pfraze · 3 days ago

What is your example of an effective open network then? ATProto is specifically designed for effective discovery which means scale. The fact that you can sync the entire network - not a requirement but you can - is a positive. The trade then is, yeah, you have to actually sync the data.

pfraze commented on Self-Guaranteeing Promises stephango.com/self-guaran... · Posted by u/tie-in

immibis · 15 days ago

No, not really. You're just assuming they're going to continue displaying your posts on bsky.app. Everyone is reading your posts through bsky.app and it doesn't matter if your post is technically available through a side channel if it's not available through the main channel.

pfraze · 15 days ago

There is no main channel

pfraze commented on Linda Yaccarino is leaving X nytimes.com/2025/07/09/te... · Posted by u/donohoe

paride5745 · a month ago

Bluesky is not a real decentralized system as the company behind it say. Bluesky (the company) controls most key parts of the network, and it is basically impossible to setup a really decentralised alternative provider for the ATProto network, like you can do today with ActivityPub (Mastodon) or Nostr.

Sure, you can setup you PDS and own your data, but it is useless without the Relays and a self-hosted Firehose, and running you own website is basically impossible.

And lastly, let's keep in mind that BSky is a commercial entity, not a no-profit like Mastodon or a commmunity effort like Nostr.

And yes, I am ignoring the political toxicity of the network because I think the technical aspects are bad enough.

pfraze · a month ago

Multiple people have set up their own relays (which, by the way, is the firehose), and multiple people have set up their own application backends (which I think is what you're calling the relay)

It's fully possible to stand up the network on your own infrastructure, and to communicate with other providers

pfraze commented on Bluesky is rolling out age verification in the UK theverge.com/news/704468/... · Posted by u/donohoe

verdverm · 2 months ago

Bluesky is one of the partners with Roost and working to address this societal level problem. Nothing particularly unique to any company when it comes to CSAM

https://roost.tools/partnerships

pfraze · 2 months ago

The roost crew has been great. I’m happy to be working with them

pfraze commented on Bluesky is rolling out age verification in the UK theverge.com/news/704468/... · Posted by u/donohoe

omoikane · 2 months ago

Original blog post: https://bsky.social/about/blog/07-10-2025-age-assurance

I was looking for more details on who is considered in-scope, e.g. if the determination is decided at account creation time or at content access time. Especially considering how the AT protocol is a decentralized protocol that is not exclusive to a single region, it's not obvious how the enforcement will work.

pfraze · 2 months ago

Enforcement occurs at the application level. You can think of applications as analogous to search engines. They're aggregating view layers (which is why they're called AppViews). They are largely where moderation or regulatory requirements are enforced.

pfraze commented on Bluesky is rolling out age verification in the UK theverge.com/news/704468/... · Posted by u/donohoe

ferf34f4334fg4 · 2 months ago

> CSAM content on Bluesky has risen ten times in just a week

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41474672

Peculiar hill you choose to die on.

pfraze · 2 months ago

And then you can see my reply to that right at the top, so thanks, newly created anon account, for helping to add clarity to the situation

pfraze commented on DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress reuters.com/world/china/d... · Posted by u/nsoonhui

properpopper · 2 months ago

Nice media-led narrative.

The real reason is that the US cannot compete fairly

pfraze · 2 months ago

What are you talking about