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nwhnwh commented on The dead Internet is not a theory anymore   adriankrebs.ch/blog/dead-... · Posted by u/hubraumhugo
amiantos · a day ago
I spend all day every day on the Internet and I don't share your perspective. I might dislike centralized social media and yearn for a bygone era, but just in the past two days I had a very positive interaction with multiple real humans in the Commodore 64 subreddit that helped solve a problem I was having that isn't documented anywhere else on the internet yet. So then I went on my personal blog and blogged about it, which will get it out there on Google and help others. In this way, I am helping to keep the internet alive, I guess. "Be the change you want to see in the world," and all that.
nwhnwh · 21 hours ago
You are a kind soul, but your mind is afraid to see reality. It doesn't matter if you share that perspective or not, and "Be the change you want to see in the world" doesn't really say anything here. See this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kWeAhMponc, and this https://arnon.dk/the-trust-collapse-infinite-ai-content-is-a...

And check these books "Superbloom: How Technologies of Connection Tear Us Apart" and "No Sense of Place", maybe it would help you to see the overall effects of the internet (and other communication mediums) and forget this simplistic view that a lot of programmers have. The nature of the communication medium doesn't just affect the message, it shapes everything in society. Ignoring that because you had a good experience here and there won't change anything.

nwhnwh commented on The dead Internet is not a theory anymore   adriankrebs.ch/blog/dead-... · Posted by u/hubraumhugo
amiantos · a day ago
Why is it being called dead internet theory when, as far as I can tell, what's really happening is that big centralized systems are being overrun with bots? The internet existed and was pretty great before these large centralized systems came into being.

Anyone can still run a blog/website, and/or their own discourse server. There's no need to mourn for these centralized systems that largely existed only to exploit us in some way. Let's celebrate "small internet theory", an internet where exploitation is effectively impossible because every company that tries it is overrun with AI bots. That sounds awesome to me personally, but I was also up late last night watching clips of Conan O'Brien from 1999 and the nostalgia for that era / what the internet was like back then hit me so hard it was almost painful.

nwhnwh · a day ago
You can create a blog, yeah. But you also can write the blog with AI. So, you still need to filter the content. Over time, people will find that "The signal-to-noise ratio has hit a breaking point where the cost of verification exceeds the expected value of engagement." https://arnon.dk/the-trust-collapse-infinite-ai-content-is-a...
nwhnwh commented on The dead Internet is not a theory anymore   adriankrebs.ch/blog/dead-... · Posted by u/hubraumhugo
butterlesstoast · a day ago
Really makes me wonder. Is there anything we can do to revive the internet or is it time to let the golden age go? : (
nwhnwh · a day ago
What is wrong with real life?
nwhnwh commented on Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans   news.ycombinator.com/news... · Posted by u/usefulposter
capricio_one · a day ago
Say what? It’s a genuine question. What is the actual repercussion for not following this?

It came up a few weeks ago. Show HN is already disabled for new accounts as of this week I think(?), but IMHO stricter measures need to be placed for account creation otherwise there’s no real enforcement.

nwhnwh · a day ago
> Say what?

Say what it means. I know it is a genuine question.

There is no solution, and that means something about the web is dead now, whether we like it or not.

nwhnwh commented on Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans   news.ycombinator.com/news... · Posted by u/usefulposter
capricio_one · a day ago
Real talk: who is this guideline going to stop? People are already doing this and they will continue. Even if you find them, they’ll just make more accounts and continue.
nwhnwh · a day ago
So? Say it. Go ahead few steps further.
nwhnwh commented on Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans   news.ycombinator.com/news... · Posted by u/usefulposter
snoren · a day ago
No way to verify. Relying on the humans here to self censor has never worked in the history of man. But the idea in itself is good. HN is for human to human conversation.
nwhnwh · a day ago
You are just a persona. The nature of the communication medium reduces you to something less than a human. You won't be able to change that. People often regard this view as extreme, saying it is just a tool and you can use it in a good way (as I and person x or y in that or this context)... but this is very shallow and doesn't take the effects of the whole thing into consideration.
nwhnwh commented on Maybe there's a pattern here?   dynomight.net/pattern/... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
vlovich123 · 6 days ago
You’re comparing a 4 year bloodbath to 10 minutes and being underimpressed? Also those weapons are several orders of magnitude less powerful than what they’re capable of today…

Battle of Carthage was also 3 years and was a siege of a city, so you know… not a lot of places for the people inside to escape. Also took about 20-50k expertly trained Roman soldiers vs a few trained guys in a plane pressing a button.

And sibling comment is right. The application of industrialization to the death process in WW2 and similar application of the idea (eg Pol Pot and Stalin) also led to death on an unprecedented scale.

nwhnwh · 6 days ago
> You’re comparing a 4 year bloodbath to 10 minutes...

Poor me having hard time trying to understand how he didn't notice that by himself.

nwhnwh commented on Maybe there's a pattern here?   dynomight.net/pattern/... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
hackyhacky · 6 days ago
tldr: many great scientific advancement were created by well-intentioned researchers who were subsequently shocked to find their work applied to military, often to the great detriment of mankind.

The unwritten implication is that this applies to AI, as well. I find it hard to disagree. I don't know what to do about it.

The HN crowd is elated that we can finally finish our side projects, while the ruling class is already using AI to subvert democracy, spread misinformation, and develop weapons. "If we don't build these weapons, someone else will." If we can learn nothing else from history, we should learn that you can't turn back the clock.

nwhnwh · 6 days ago
If you wanted the core of all of this... Check this book "Irrational Man" by William Barrett.
nwhnwh commented on UUID package coming to Go standard library   github.com/golang/go/issu... · Posted by u/soypat
therealdrag0 · 6 days ago
Golang lack of support for basic stuff like this is quite annoying.
nwhnwh commented on Arabic document from 17th-cent. rubbish heap confirms semi-legendary Nubian king   phys.org/news/2026-02-ara... · Posted by u/wglb
ameminator · 7 days ago
Uh, probably it would have been a place to be avoided for a non-Arab
nwhnwh · 7 days ago
Why?

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