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notthisagain2 commented on People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms   vice.com/en/article/z3434... · Posted by u/lladnar
emptyparadise · 4 years ago
Did somebody post a link to HN on that site or something?
notthisagain2 · 4 years ago
Yes they did: https://kiwifarms.net/search/15388568/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fnews....

I guess that's part of the reason why there are very specific accounts in this thread promoting obvious misinformation without citing any sources.

notthisagain2 commented on People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms   vice.com/en/article/z3434... · Posted by u/lladnar
HereIGoAgain · 4 years ago
The problem is that, much like the alleged body count, they do nothing of the sort. See my post above.

They don't harass or even troll. It's literally one of the core rules of the site. Look (and laugh) but don't touch! If you ever try to organize something on-site, you'll get down-voted, your post deleted and potentially even banned. Attempting to swat isn't just not allowed on the site, but most members call out actual attempts as stupid, dangerous and evil!

Posting publicly available info and then pointing and laughing, is not stalking or harassment.

notthisagain2 · 4 years ago
> Harassment campaigns by Kiwi Farms users are known to have contributed to the suicides of three individuals.[9] The Kiwi Farms community considers it a goal to drive its targets to suicide, and has celebrated such deaths with a counter on the website.[11]: 55, 61 They have used social media reporting systems to mass-report posts by harassment targets in which they've expressed suicidal thoughts or intentions, with the goal of reducing the possibility their targets receive help.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Harassment

It's kind of funny that you talk about an "alleged body count" when the site literally put up an actual counter of the people whose suicide they encouraged.

notthisagain2 commented on People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms   vice.com/en/article/z3434... · Posted by u/lladnar
HereIGoAgain · 4 years ago
Those are pretty poor examples of anything. nymag doesn't even get basic facts correctly. If posting bias uninformed hit pieces is all it took to win debates then the world would be a pretty sad place.
notthisagain2 · 4 years ago
This comment is useless as it is, you can't dispute the veracity of the facts presented in the article without providing any kind of evidence yourself. Please, refrain from posting low-value comments like this one that add nothing to the conversation.
notthisagain2 commented on People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms   vice.com/en/article/z3434... · Posted by u/lladnar
HereIGoAgain · 4 years ago
>"Kiwi Farms is a ball of hate just like the Daily Stormer is"

Do you have anything to back that up? KF isn't even a political site.

>"Just claim Cloudflare are big Kiwi Farms supporters"

Which would be an outright lie and easily disproven.

notthisagain2 · 4 years ago
> Do you have anything to back that up? KF isn't even a political site.

I won't link to them, but here are some random threads easily obtained by Googling:

- "Is being a Nazi really that bad?" (Full of comments saying that, no, it isn't that bad, and in fact LGTB people are worse).

- "White Supremacy Megathread" (Thread where every single comment is a full-on racist screech).

- "Why do Kiwi Farms users so racist against blacks?" (Where every single comment tries to justify the racism of the site).

Just to be clear: I don't expect to convince you, because you're clearly lying constantly about the nature of the site in all your comments to defend it. I just want to provide some actual, real context for your lies.

notthisagain2 commented on People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms   vice.com/en/article/z3434... · Posted by u/lladnar
HereIGoAgain · 4 years ago
Isn't that the guy who faked his own death or something? Pretty sure he was a member of KF and participated in his own thread, a thread that wasn't active for like a half a year before any of this. Did he post any proof that it was KF or examples? Or was it simply assumed like so many other cases?

As said before.. Trolling or harassing isn't allowed. ("look don't touch")

notthisagain2 · 4 years ago
Just so people reading this are aware, it's a clear lie that that person "faked his own death or something". As has been posted in another comment, their employer confirmed the death: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/07/23/how-toxic-onli....

I only state it again because this user is spreading deliberate misinformation all over the thread.

notthisagain2 commented on People are demanding that Cloudflare drop Kiwi Farms   vice.com/en/article/z3434... · Posted by u/lladnar
notthisagain2 · 4 years ago
Nothing official? It's a literal confirmation of their death by their employer. You're literally all over this thread spreading easily verifiable misinformation, it's frankly just sad. If you had any integrity you'd update your comments to reflect that you were wrong, but of course you won't because you are deliberately lying about the site.

u/notthisagain2

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