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noFaceDiscoG668 commented on Can AI do maths yet? Thoughts from a mathematician   xenaproject.wordpress.com... · Posted by u/mathgenius
tossandthrow · a year ago
I do think it is time to start questioning whether the utility of ai solely can be reduced to the quality of the training data.

This might be a dogma that needs to die.

noFaceDiscoG668 · a year ago
I tried. I don't have the time to formulate and scrutinise adequate arguments, though.

Do you? Anything anywhere you could point me to?

The algorithms live entirely off the training data. They consistently fail to "abduct" (inference) beyond any language-in/of-the-training-specific information.

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noFaceDiscoG668 commented on Can AI do maths yet? Thoughts from a mathematician   xenaproject.wordpress.com... · Posted by u/mathgenius
noFaceDiscoG668 · a year ago
"once" the training data can do it, LLMs will be able to do it. and AI will be able to do math once it comes to check out the lights of our day and night. until then it'll probably wonder continuously and contiguously: "wtf! permanence! why?! how?! by my guts, it actually fucking works! why?! how?!"
noFaceDiscoG668 commented on Language and Personality   solipsys.co.uk/ZimExpt/La... · Posted by u/ColinWright
numpad0 · a year ago
wait, those languages has things about submission and obedience embedded in grammar?
noFaceDiscoG668 · a year ago
you won't "believe" until you study it. same in french. at the end you won't have to believe, Neo, you'll know.

it's how language works in the brain or rather, how language wires the brain, what it does "to the brain".

Chomsky isn't wrong. Bad analogy: Think of the C language and how other languages interface with it so they don't have to touch the machine code itself. Now think of proprietary and open hardware and drivers. Why Python? Why Mojo? Do you get Zig? ( I barely know any code, btw, any actual coder is more qualified to speak about a languages relation and work-asAndOnThe-bitLevel-inAndAroundTheWire-Interface than I am )

It's not _just_ grammar (vs gran'ma), tho. it's in the combo of pronunciation, "tone", (syntax and) semantics (ambiguity & conotation) and all the other stuff. levels of lexicology are elementary/fundamental, and, as far as I know, nothing comes close ( Mandarin and Japanese are THE exception ) to the amount of Russian levels ( and the combos, if you ever reach that level, which nobody has done in a loooong time. there's no official records anyway )

it's not even that crazy once you get the pattern. Russian can go "all ways" at the same time.

English & German are on another level with the former being much more permissive in terms of personality/individuality than the latter, which is why there's such an immense effort to fuck up the German language, because it's much closer to unambiguous truth/logic/ actual rationality ( not to mention super-rationality )

you'll barely find Germans with a proper command and or understanding of their own language anymore. and no, they won't turn into Hubrismen (Hybrismensch vs Übermensch) or anything like that via language alone.

thank you for 'phrasing' your ridicule as a question <3, you don't even know how awesome you might be

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