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ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
nerdsniper · 9 days ago
Yes, please delete it. Thank you.
ncouture · 9 days ago
I planned on not leaving it online but wanted to test how much traffic it could drive. Nothing. 500 views.
ncouture commented on Father claims Google's AI product fuelled son's delusional spiral   bbc.com/news/articles/czx... · Posted by u/tartoran
Argonaut998 · 10 days ago
I don't know what steps they can take. I suppose the best course of action is to deactivate the account if the LLM deems the user mentally unwell. Although that is just additional guardrails that could hurt the quality of the LLM.
ncouture · 10 days ago
I would absolutely not consider this overreaching if the statement within this thread that "it had referred the user to mental help hotlines multiple times in the past" is true.

That reaches near the fact that a lot of AI is not ready for the enterprise especially when interconnected with other AI agents since it lacks identity and privileged access management.

Perhaps one could establish the laws of "being able to use AI for what it is", for instance, within the boundary of the general public's web interface, not limiting the instances where it successfully advertises itself as "being unable to provide medical advice" or "is prone to or can make mistake", and such, to validating that the person understands by asking them directly and perhaps somewhat obviously indirectly and judging if they're aware that this is a computer you're talking to.

ncouture commented on Father claims Google's AI product fuelled son's delusional spiral   bbc.com/news/articles/czx... · Posted by u/tartoran
autoexec · 10 days ago
Gemini didn't "know" he wasn't a child when it told him to kill himself or to "stage a mass casualty attack while armed with knives and tactical gear."

There are things you shouldn't encourage people of any age to do. If a human telling him these things would be found liable then google should be. If a human would get time behind bars for it, at least one person at google needs to spend time behind bars for this.

ncouture · 10 days ago
It sounds more poetic than an invitation or an insult that invites someone directly or not to kill themselves, in its own, in my opinion.

This isn't Gemini's words, it's many people's words in different contexts.

It's a tragedy. Finding one to blame will be of no help at all.

ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
nerdsniper · 10 days ago
The video description and comment on YouTube are also obviously AI. The fact that I can't find any clearly human creation or interaction with this on YT or HN is why I'm flagging it.
ncouture · 10 days ago
I can delete it if you want.
ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
pinkmuffinere · 10 days ago
Copy-pasting the comment makes me think that the discussion is less important to them (are they going to check and respond in both places?), and they just want the visibility. Admittedly, this is just how I perceive it, I can also understand somebody thinking “I have something good to say, I’ll say it in multiple places”
ncouture · 10 days ago
You might have a point but I also stand by the point of view of the reply you reply to. It's personal opinion.

In this case, your intuition is right, I threw this around as fast I could to find out if little would go a long way.

It went further than I thought and I appreciate the various views this sparks. Though it's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, it's rightly so.

ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
drakinosh · 10 days ago
They are obviously all LLM-generated responses - the same punchy editorial style that annoys me to no end. Just ignore them.
ncouture · 10 days ago
Leviticus 11:3, "Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is cloven footed, [and] cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that may ye eat."

One must learn to walk the walk not merely talk the talk. :-)

ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
pinkmuffinere · 10 days ago
Are YOU an AI??
ncouture · 10 days ago
No but yes.
ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
RGamma · 10 days ago
GP is LLM slop. And also a nothingburger, framing this pretty innocuous startup course as conspiracy.
ncouture · 10 days ago
Ah, there it is. I'm starting to feel sorry and only got 30 upvotes.

If it's of interest to anyone, I have not used any alternative means of advertising this YC post other than posting it here and using 2 alt accounts to write the first two replies and two upvotes.

ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
remote · 10 days ago
I am `ncouture`, and `kisscalls` is me.
ncouture · 10 days ago
What `kisscalls` said as `remote` is true.
ncouture commented on YC Controls the Frame: Sam Altman's VC Advisors' Protocol Leaked [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=pjO2_... · Posted by u/ncouture
ncouture · 10 days ago
We are looking at high-level operant conditioning disguised as standard startup advice. The most fascinating tactical deployment happens at [22:56]—the 'Socratic Trap.' Notice how they advise inducing a micro-stressor (asking the founder why they will fail) to shatter the target's rehearsed 'pitch mask' and force cognitive overload. It’s a textbook elicitation technique to establish a baseline of the founder's true risk tolerance.

Which influence tactic or behavioral shift stood out to you the most in this briefing? Drop your profiling observations below—I’ll be analyzing the best ones.

u/ncouture

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