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nappsec commented on Everyone is cheating their way through college   nymag.com/intelligencer/a... · Posted by u/jsheard
sfn42 · 8 months ago
> And the return isn't knowledge, but a diploma.

Do you believe that if you were given a diploma saying you passed med school with flying colors, you could just go be a doctor? Knowledge doesn't matter, it's all about that diploma?

Personally I think it's the exact opposite. The diploma doesn't matter, it's the knowledge you want. CS is a good example of that, plenty of great programmers with no degree. Diploma doesn't matter.

A lot of my peers slacked off in university, since then I've had an extremely easy time getting jobs whereas I know many of my peers have struggled. Most of my job applications have resulted in interviews and all of my interviews have resulted in job offers.

We all have the diploma, difference is knowledge. While my peers were struggling with their assignments I was already done, spending my time helping them and studying further. When they were finally done with the assignment they slacked off until the next thing they were required to do, while I was programming for fun, exploring new things, studying to prepare for every lecture etc.

University is the perfect environment for learning. You have lots of time, guidance, peers, resources etc. The fact that most people completely ignore that opportunity does not change its value. You get what you give.

nappsec · 8 months ago
If you're going into a field where you need a solid technical foundation the knowledge is what matters. But if you're going into an unrelated domain like most college grads who enter non-technical, white-collar jobs the diploma is the return because the coursework has no direct relevance to the profession, but employers will filter out applicants without degrees.

Someone with a bachelors in history has a much higher likelihood of being hired for an entry level sales role for example, than someone without one. But that bachelors isn't conferring any unique knowledge about sales.

nappsec commented on Everyone is cheating their way through college   nymag.com/intelligencer/a... · Posted by u/jsheard
arp242 · 8 months ago
> 1. Most people get a degree to pass degree checks in jobs.

How many top physicists didn't go to university? How many Nobel Prize winners (aside from Peace or Literature)? How many degree-less engineers do you want to be building your bridges? Or surgeons operating on you?

This is such a software dev centric view. In software it kind of works because you can learn and "practice" with just a computer. This is also why there's a fair amount of car mechanics without degrees. But it's much harder to "practice" many other things. As a software dev who never went to university, I also readily admit that I never did some of the more theoretical foundational stuff. Is that relevant in my day-to-day work? Mostly not. Until it is.

nappsec · 8 months ago
You're talking about rigorous fields where practitioners need a solid technical base. There are lots of white-collar jobs that really don't require a college education but employers will filter out applicants with degrees.
nappsec commented on In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work   slate.com/life/2024/12/wo... · Posted by u/mooreds
imhoguy · a year ago
Then you don't need salespeople as it sells itself. You need on-boarding support people.
nappsec · a year ago
I'm guessing you've never worked in sales.

Even well-known product lead companies like Atlassian employ sales reps, especially at the enterprise and strategic levels, because demonstrating value to the end user is only a part of the sales process. There's lots of additional work that's closer to project management that's required to close a deal. It's identifying and aligning stakeholders, helping to justify budget by putting together a business case for leadership and finance teams who won't directly interface with the product and need to be sold on it's value. This is the sort of thing high level business to business sales reps spend a ton of time doing.

nappsec commented on It's legal for police to use deception in interrogations. Some want that to end   text.npr.org/nx-s1-497496... · Posted by u/everybodyknows
henryfjordan · a year ago
Never talk to the police. Do not "just give a statement" to get them to let you go.

Identify yourself when asked, ask for a lawyer, then shut up.

If communicating something to the police might be helpful for you, do that through your lawyer.

"You can beat the charges but you can't beat the ride"

nappsec commented on Why the CrowdStrike bug hit banks hard   bitsaboutmoney.com/archiv... · Posted by u/sideway
tootie · a year ago
This is going to crush their sales pipeline and lead to at least a few attempting a migration off. Crowdstrike is unlikely to go out of business, but this is not a good time to buy.
nappsec · a year ago
That depends what sort of timeline you're looking at. I wouldn't be surprised if the price fell more, but the markets are forward looking and long term they're a key player in the space.

u/nappsec

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