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mustacheemperor commented on Latest ChatGPT 4 System prompt (1,700 tokens)   pastebin.com/vnxJ7kQk... · Posted by u/simonpure
nostromo · 2 years ago
You don't know that though.

And there's evidence to the contrary. If you look at the career choices of women, to pick one contentious social issue at random, they tend to be different than the career choices of men, even in countries with a long history of gender equality.

So if I ask ChatGPT to make me a picture of trash collectors or fishermen, it shouldn't rewrite my query to force x% of them to be women.

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
Every HN thread including any discussion of demographics eventually reaches a man insisting women are biologically programmed for certain roles. When specified those roles are invariably service based ones and never engineering innovative products, leading teams, or conducting research.

Relative to the breadth of human history with little to no gender equality, there is no country with a long history of gender equality. And throughout the history of gradually increasing gender equality in human society, there are numerous examples of men structuring the rules of engagement to restrict access for the women attempting to break in. When the Royal Society commissioned a bust of mathematician Mary Somerville, they still refused to admit her.[0]

If women are biologically ill suited to compete with men in these fields, it seems it would be unnecessary to prevent them from trying, like med schools rigging their exams.[1]

[0]https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsnr.2010.004...

[1]https://apnews.com/general-news-1c2a635e9faa44daa1225a804288...

Aside, I think this is it for me, I’m changing my HN password to something I can’t guess or remember. This is one part of tech culture I am just sick of responding to. There is more than enough of it in real life and I will always feel obliged to respond. Especially on HN where so many voices are leaders in the real world, the disappointment of seeing it over and over again is just crushing.

Please…if you won’t alter this attitude, don’t bring it to work. For the sake of the women in this field.

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mustacheemperor commented on The Problem with Civil Asset Forfeiture (2016)   papers.ssrn.com/sol3/pape... · Posted by u/TaurenHunter
supernova87a · 2 years ago
Just to provide a contrary (or tempering?) opinion about the broader context --

Civil asset forfeiture seems to be loved so much on Reddit as some kind of evil boogeyman that's coming for each of us, by corrupt police forces stopping you just when you happen to carry cash around from selling your car, or things like that. It's talked about as if people were getting struck by lighting or bitten by sharks every minute in the US.

But the actual cases of this tool/legal mechanism being used are incredibly rare. The paper linked doesn't even go into any stats on how often this happens. It talks about this in isolation as a legal oddity to be fixed. And, sure, it may be worthy of fixing.

But in the popular understanding (admittedly, a specialized, weird-threats-in-our-country understanding) this remains a topic that, like many other things, has harsh and extreme or unfair sounding impacts on people but is actually extremely rare. But it grabs headlines among a certain class of internet news readers. You're statistically not going to face this in reality in your lifetime.

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
Total federal civil asset forfeiture passed losses from burglary in 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-...

mustacheemperor commented on Prisoners in the US are part of a hidden workforce linked to popular food brands   english.elpais.com/usa/20... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
trobertson · 2 years ago
Looking at the Colonial era is looking at slavery ~300 years before it peaked just before the Civil War. Therefore, the numbers you give for the Colonial times don't have anything to do with the conversation.
mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
Yes, this user grotesquely underrepresented the scale of chattel slavery in America at the peak of the American slave economy. The original commenter is still completely wrong if you look at the 1860 census.

The first user made a wild, incorrect guess, and the rest of this subthread shows just how badly that can spoil discussion quality on a forum like this. Fortunately, someone linked an earlier discussion up at the top.

mustacheemperor commented on Prisoners in the US are part of a hidden workforce linked to popular food brands   english.elpais.com/usa/20... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
mjburgess · 2 years ago
they mean absolute numbers
mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
They are also wrong by absolute numbers.
mustacheemperor commented on Prisoners in the US are part of a hidden workforce linked to popular food brands   english.elpais.com/usa/20... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
malfist · 2 years ago
I did some digging because I was curious.

From the 1860 census [1]:

Total Number of slaves: 4m

Total Population: 31.4m

Percentage of population as slaves: 12.7%

From the 2010 census [2]:

Total Population: 309m

Total Incarcerated Population: 7m [3]

Percentage of population incarcerated: 2.2%

OP is absolutely not correct, even if we are generous and assume every incarcerated person is forced into labor.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_census [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_census [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_ra...

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
That figure of 7m is not the total incarcerated population. It's the total correctional population, which includes parole and probation.
mustacheemperor commented on Prisoners in the US are part of a hidden workforce linked to popular food brands   english.elpais.com/usa/20... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
hedora · 2 years ago
People always get confused when I say the US should finally get around to banning slavery.

I tried to compute an estimate of the current percentage of the US population that's forced labor vs. at the peak of the pre-abolition slave trade, and from what I can tell, it's currently higher than it ever was back then.

People argue that what we currently have isn't the same or as bad, but present-day prisoners would point out that the current system is a form of eugenics: We keep a large percentage of reproductive-age black males locked up where they can't father or raise children. Back in the slave days, owners often chose who breeded with whom. Both are reprehensible, but you could argue either situation is worse than the other. At least the old policy didn't have the effect of slowly reducing / diluting out the black population.

Anyway, the US should ban slavery.

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
The 1860 census counted just over 4 million enslaved African Americans in the South, out of a population of about 31.4 million.[0][1]

There are about 1.9 million people incarcerated in jail or prison in the United States today.[2]

The scale of incarceration in the US today is mind-boggling, but is itself under half the number of people enslaved at the height of the Southern slave economy.

[0]https://usafacts.org/articles/the-1860-census-counted-4-mill... [1]https://www.census.gov/library/publications/1864/dec/1860a.h... [2]https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2023.html

mustacheemperor commented on Taggers have sprayed graffiti on 27 stories of a downtown Los Angeles skyscraper   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/perihelions
soumlaut2 · 2 years ago
Pretend you like your job, your area, and your community for a moment - you come into work one day and you find out that someone had tagged your dumpster. Does it only degrade trash corp llc? Or you do you feel an effect? Does it echo outside your company, how do your neighbors perceive it?

Someone drives past, that has no overlap all at with any of those factors.. they're gonna have an internal reaction too.

I guess if someones a fan of burning society down you can make a pitch that there's some progress being made by someone spraying their tag handle on some symbol of capitalistic structures.. but I have a hard time seeing depth of meaning from an act that's usually ego-driven(tagging).

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
But a dumpster is a complete and functional item. I think that's a key distinction. This is an incomplete high rise blighting the landscape until it's taken down.

What if you like your job, your area, and a developer shows up one day and installs 2/3rds of a dumpster in the parking lot. There is a partially completed trash enclosure there, clearly unfinished, blighting the view from your office.

If someone drives past, they're not going to get a positive impression whether it's painted or not.

If someone paints the wreckage of the incomplete dumpster, how do you feel about it? It seems to me the disrespect here is really from the people who built a pile of garbage in your parking lot.

mustacheemperor commented on Plastic bag bans work   zmescience.com/science/ne... · Posted by u/Brajeshwar
mattlondon · 2 years ago
What are you supposed to do? Carry around bags with you all day in case you happen to go to the store?

If it is a planned visit sure, but if you are just out and about you don't want to be carrying around spare bags in your jeans pocket just in case.

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
I actually essentially do that, I have a reusable bag that folds up into itself with a zipper into a package about the size of a wallet. Fits well in a purse or jacket pocket and is more pleasant to carry when full than a plastic bag anyhow.

So really, there’s not even a small sacrifice involved for me, just a little bit of planning, to avoid making that waste.

And isn’t this kind of ingenious gadget based solution much more in the hacker spirit than throwing up our hands and saying, give me back the old traditional way regardless of the flaws?

mustacheemperor commented on A startup allegedly 'hacked the world', then came censorship, and now backlash   wired.com/story/appin-tra... · Posted by u/coloneltcb
saagarjha · 2 years ago
> The judge in the case initially sided with Appin Training Centers, writing that the article could have a “devastating effect on the general students population of India.” He quickly ordered an injunction stating that Appin Training Centers can demand Reuters take down their claims about Appin Technology.

What devastating effects could possibly outweigh reporting on a company that does illegal hacking for hire?

mustacheemperor · 2 years ago
In particular because Appin Training Centers was only incorporated several months after being named the plaintiff in the lawsuit, and appears to exist in order to facilitate these suits.

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