missingrib (u/missingrib)

missingrib commented on AGI is an engineering problem, not a model training problem vincirufus.com/posts/agi-... · Posted by u/vincirufus

AIPedant · 9 days ago

It is vacuously true that a Turing machine can implement human intelligence: simply solve the Schrödinger equation for every atom in the human body and local environment. Obviously this is cost-prohibitive and we don’t have even 0.1% of the data required to make the simulation. Maybe we could simulate every single neuron instead, but again it’ll take many decades to gather the data in living human brains, and it would still be extremely expensive computationally since we would need to simulate every protein and mRNA molecule across billions of neurons and glial cells.

So the question is whether human intelligence has higher-level primitives that can be implemented more efficiently - sort of akin to solving differential equations, is there a “symbolic solution” or are we forced to go “numerically” no matter how clever we are?

missingrib · 9 days ago

That is only true if consciousness is physical and the result of some physics going on in the human brain. We have no idea if that's true.

missingrib commented on Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations anthropic.com/research/en... · Posted by u/virgildotcodes

derektank · 17 days ago

>Consciousness serves no functional purpose for machine learning models, they don't need it and we didn't design them to have it.

Isn't consciousness an emergent property of brains? If so, how do we know that it doesn't serve a functional purpose and that it wouldn't be necessary for an AI system to have consciousness (assuming we wanted to train it to perform cognitive tasks done by people)?

Now, certain aspects of consciousness (awareness of pain, sadness, loneliness, etc.) might serve no purpose for a non-biological system and there's no reason to expect those aspects would emerge organically. But I don't think you can extend that to the entire concept of consciousness.

missingrib · 17 days ago

>Isn't consciousness an emergent property of brains?

Probably not.

missingrib commented on AGI Is Still 30 Years Away – Ege Erdil and Tamay Besiroglu dwarkesh.com/p/ege-tamay... · Posted by u/Philpax

ggreer · 5 months ago

Is there any specific mental task that an average human is capable of that you believe computers will not be able to do?

Also does this also mean that you believe that brain emulations (uploads) are not possible, even given an arbitrary amount of compute power?

missingrib · 5 months ago

Yes, they can't have understanding or intentionality.

missingrib commented on MIT study explains why laws are written in an incomprehensible style news.mit.edu/2024/mit-stu... · Posted by u/keepamovin

NordSteve · 9 months ago

In the original, if either the stock transfer books of the Company _or_ the book entry system of the warrant agent are closed, the person becomes a holder on the next date when either are open.

In your rewrite, if both the stock transfer books and the book entry system of the warrant agent are closed, the person becomes a holder on the next day when both are open.

If you search for the language of the original, you'll find a bunch of examples of the exact same language. I'm with the others that this is well-litigated language that no one wants to change. https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=161&q=Each+person+in+whose+....

missingrib · 8 months ago

Pretty easy to fix:

[2] 3.3.4 Date of Issuance. To determine the record date for ownership of Common Stock shares (whether issued as a book entry or certificate), ask: Were the Company's stock transfer books or the Warrant Agent's book entry system open when the Warrant was surrendered and the Warrant Price was paid? If yes, the record date is that same date of surrender and payment. If no, the record date is the close of business on the next day when either the books or systems are open.

missingrib commented on LLMs, Theory of Mind, and Cheryl's Birthday github.com/norvig/pytudes... · Posted by u/stereoabuse

pfisherman · a year ago

LLMs and NLP are to verbal reasoning what the calculator is to quantitative reasoning.

Language and by extension verbal reasoning is full of ambiguity and semantic slipperiness. For example, what degree of semantic similarity distinguishes synonymous from synonym-ish concepts? When do we partition concepts into homonyms?

I think part of the problem with how people evaluate LLMs is that the expectations that people have. Natural language != ontology. The expectation should be more Chomsky and less Boole. Asking it to solve math problems written in paragraph form is a waste of time. Use a calculator for that! Solving riddles? Code it up in prolog!

Instead you should be thinking of what operations you can do on concepts, meaning, and abstract ideas! That is what these things do.

missingrib · a year ago

Is this really verbal reasoning? It's just a logic problem.

missingrib commented on Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater success in federal court psypost.org/physically-at... · Posted by u/bookofjoe

User23 · a year ago

They also tend to be smarter[1]. What we perceive as physical attractiveness is obviously some kind of mate selection adaptation. It’s no surprise that it would correspond with both intelligence and fertility.

The halo effect exists because it’s a somewhat valid heuristic.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01602...

missingrib · a year ago

It correlates, which could also explain a link in the opposite direction. Secondary sex characteristics sometimes have nothing to do with overall fitness. You can see this most clearly in animal species where the females value elaborate ornamentation, like peacocks.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisherian_runaway and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis.

missingrib commented on The Deaths of Effective Altruism wired.com/story/deaths-of... · Posted by u/laurex

cowthulhu · a year ago

I always feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I see how vitriolic the discussion around EA gets. I’m sure you can find some crazies in who adhere to EA in wacky ways (as with any other group), but the brunt of the focus of EA has always clearly been to do the most good per dollar, or to be effective with your altruism. Maybe a secondary belief is that you should donate 10% of your income to charity. These seem like obviously good things, to the point that I don’t understand how people can be so against while maintaining a straight face.

missingrib · a year ago

It's just people coping with guilt about not giving to charity honestly. That, and ad hominem attacks on the people involved. You see people giving kidneys away and there are still articles talking about how its selfish or misguided.

missingrib commented on The Deaths of Effective Altruism wired.com/story/deaths-of... · Posted by u/laurex

human_person · a year ago

I’ve always approached it from the other side and wondered about the appeal of altruism. Is it really so bad if you help your neighbor or someone you know? If you benefit from the improvement in your community is it some how less valuable? Your own community or clan is what you know best, what you are best positioned to help in monetary and non monetary ways. I also wonder if there is any true altruism. I think people usually benefit from their service or donation even if it’s just feeling good (or perhaps feeling superior to people who focus on supporting their own communities).

missingrib · a year ago

I cannot think of a reason to prefer to help a neighbor over someone who is vastly more in need who is further away. I think that's the main thrust of the argument.

missingrib commented on Simpson's paradox en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sim... · Posted by u/tosh

klodolph · a year ago

There are various categories of paradoxes and different ways people have categorized them.

Quine calls this one a “veridical paradox”, where it seems false but is true.

Example of a different types of paradox are: any proof that 1=0, Russell’s Paradox, and Zeno’s paradox. These are either false in some sense or used to illustrate fallacious reasoning.

missingrib · a year ago

I don't think Zeno's paradoxes have truly been proven false.

missingrib commented on British intelligence able to read and flag private Snapchat messages reuters.com/world/europe/... · Posted by u/0xNOTVALID

wasdfff · 2 years ago

How often does this even get used? How does the NSA even communicate to a police officer in the field? I think you give local cops a ton of credit. At the end of the day it looks like there are more hard drugs available on the street than ever before despite all the spooky tech and warrantless searching.

missingrib · 2 years ago

It was probably used in the Silk Road investigation.