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lle-bout commented on FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services   ftc.gov/news-events/press... · Posted by u/g0xA52A2A
akersten · 5 years ago
Here is the actual order (PDF warning): https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/reports/6b-orders...

I would encourage everyone to read it. My personal take is that this is a ridiculous amount of homework to do in 45 days, and is essentially the FTC asking for not only these companies' "secret sauce" but also their confidential bookkeeping. I would be astounded if none of them challenged this order.

For example, requirement 12.d.: "Submit all documents related to the Company's strategies or plans, including but not limited to research and development efforts." It is not clear the FTC has this kind of authority to essentially demand "what are your trade secrets and future business plans?"

lle-bout · 5 years ago
I don't think it's more important to protect private profits than ensure people's right are respected when their data is being processed.

Moreover, I don't think the answers will be made public so what's the problem with being held accountable to a government authority? That's just normal in this case.

It's more than relevant to get to know a company business strategy when their business model is essentially based on user data.

lle-bout commented on To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided   nytimes.com/2020/10/28/te... · Posted by u/CapitalistCartr
cambalache · 5 years ago
> Yes, I am not sure I want to discuss politics with anyone from a shop either, but the way that shop is managed is a political position.

Or just it isnt, I have managed shops and I for sure was not thinking about Hayek or Marx, I paid my employees according to the law, paid my taxes and followed the rules. Not every action has to be a sociological treatise no matter what the enlightened crowd may think.

> Also it is more relevant to tech startups because technology has that thing where it can greatly influence the world after it exists. There's more political decisions to make and positions to take when you do that.

Nails have been more important for civilization than 99% of SV start-ups. You are giving your tribe too much credit. And I thought this pandemic taught us a lesson, it only goes to show how dumb I am.

lle-bout · 5 years ago
> Not every action has to be a sociological treatise no matter what the enlightened crowd may think.

I didnt say that, you can take political positions unconsciously.

> Nails have been more important for civilization than 99% of SV start-ups. You are giving your tribe too much credit. And I thought this pandemic taught us a lesson, it only goes to show how dumb I am.

It's not about pretention or credit, I'm just being objective, tech has shaped the world in recent years, every so often a new technology causes us all to change our behaviors and ideas greatly whether we choose to welcome that technology or it just came to be and forced onto everyone.

lle-bout commented on To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided   nytimes.com/2020/10/28/te... · Posted by u/CapitalistCartr
cambalache · 5 years ago
99% of the time this just means: "If you are not doing something I want you to, I will call that inaction/indifference politics too so I can attack you and not being perceived as a radical"

But no, the guy who sells me nails (as long as he is complying with the basic regulatory framwework for his business) doesnt need to have a vocal opinion on Israel/Palestine, BLM or if the gender balance in Google is OK or not. I even prefer it that way.

lle-bout · 5 years ago
Yes, I am not sure I want to discuss politics with anyone from a shop either, but the way that shop is managed is a political position. It doesnt need to be about voicing your opinion to your customers.

Also it is more relevant to tech startups because technology has that thing where it can greatly influence the world after it exists. There's more political decisions to make and positions to take when you do that.

lle-bout commented on To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided   nytimes.com/2020/10/28/te... · Posted by u/CapitalistCartr
rayiner · 5 years ago
> Politics is not just about a vote at a presidential election, it's the how and why of everything you do and will do, be it in the tech startup or elsewhere.

That’s certainly not true, outside an extremely expansive definition of politics.

lle-bout · 5 years ago
I still think it is true, when you choose to create some technology for example, the way you choose to design it will favor some things more than others, and that can have direct impact on society and people. Deciding how the technology will be is politics to me.

For example, say a tech startup is creating a crypto-currency like Bitcoin, choosing to create it like Bitcoin conveys anarcho-capitalist values. That is politics. Choosing to design consensus differently than on competition for something of value (PoW, PoS) like what FairCoin does might convey different political positions. Choosing not to create crypto-currency technology at all is also another one.

Technologies after they exist will favor the world becoming closer to some political ideas, tech startups like Uber convey liberal values with their driver recruitment model. iFixit another tech company rather choose to empower people to repair their things or open their own repair services, that's another political position. They could've started a very successful repair shop franchise and earn lots of money with some kind of monopoly on repair, yet they choose to share knowledge and encourage people to do so with their website.

lle-bout commented on To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided   nytimes.com/2020/10/28/te... · Posted by u/CapitalistCartr
lle-bout · 5 years ago
It is nonsensical to write the title as such, all tech startups (since we're talking about them, but not only) do politics. They just choose it to do it in different directions. Most often when someone says they don't want to involve themselves with politics they are alright with the status-quo, which is a political position in itself. Politics is not just about a vote at a presidential election, it's the how and why of everything you do and will do, be it in the tech startup or elsewhere.
lle-bout commented on Do AI/automation threaten you?    · Posted by u/elocinstr8t
elocinstr8t · 7 years ago
I agree, but in other industries, there are people that say that AI will be replacing humans in the near future. At least I think they mean when AI becomes smarter. Somehow, I'm not we'll see an AGI or ASI in our lifetime. One that is capable of "replacing" human labor completely.
lle-bout · 7 years ago
We're technologically very far from that.

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