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lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
doppelgunner · 3 months ago
Great idea, you deserve an upvote. I also like the part where you show/display the revenue and profit. This way, buyers know at least the risk and reward for buying the business. It would be great if there's a way you can handle the processing for transferring business.
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
Thanks doppelgunner! We'd love to do that, but still a lot of moving parts to put in place before then. We'll get there :-)
lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
scrame · 3 months ago
I'm getting nothing for seattle or king county except asking me for my email address and a captcha. i turned off ad blocking, it flashed something for like 2million and then went back to the "nothing available".
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
It's back!
lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
scrame · 3 months ago
I'm getting nothing for seattle or king county except asking me for my email address and a captcha. i turned off ad blocking, it flashed something for like 2million and then went back to the "nothing available".
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
UPDATE: We have identified the bug we introduced exactly 4 hours ago... lesson learned, never deploy on HN's day... Fix is being deployed! Apologies again!
lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
scrame · 3 months ago
I'm getting nothing for seattle or king county except asking me for my email address and a captcha. i turned off ad blocking, it flashed something for like 2million and then went back to the "nothing available".
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
Hi scrame! Thanks for letting us know. We definitely have some listings in seattle. Looking into it and be right back with an answer. Apologies!
lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
sema4hacker · 3 months ago
Don't restrict yourself to businesses. Instead list commercial real estate, which are occupied or vacant, and any occupants are sometimes the building owner and sometimes a renter, and the building and/or (some of the) occupant business(es) are for sale. There are buyers for every combination.
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
Hey, sema!

You're right, the two are often tied together. For now, we're laser-focused on the operating business, the brand, the customers, the cash flow, presence, etc.

We made a conscious decision that if we tried to solve both the business sale and the commercial real estate piece at the same time, we'd do an "okay" job at both.

Our goal for now is to be the absolute best in the world at our part of the puzzle first.

But never say never! We'll keep this in mind, thanks again for the feedback.

lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
opengrass · 3 months ago
Realtors list these as lease takeovers, franchises like Anytime Fitness have their own buy and sell portals.
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
Hi opengrass! thank you for the comment.

That is true but these are two really distinct parts of the ecosystem.

A realtor is fantastic for the 'where' the lease and the physical space. We're all about the 'what' the actual operating business with its brand and cash flow. It's the difference between taking over a location and buying an income stream.

And yes, big franchises are their own walled gardens but our world / approach is the millions of independent businesses, the local coffee shop, the family-owned auto repair that make up the vast majority of the market.

That's the massive slice that's been left behind by modern tech.

lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
mNovak · 3 months ago
Site looks nice, best of luck!

I'd be curious just to learn more about who's the typical buyer of brick and mortar local businesses -- not something I've ever thought about

lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
Thanks mnovak, that’s a really good question and something we’re putting a lot of work on answering accurately.

The buyer landscape is more diverse than most poeple think. It's really a mix of a few key groups:

- There's the classic one, the person who's climbed the corporate ladder, has some capital, and wants to buy back control of their own time.

- Then you have the employee who's ready to be the owner. Think of the head cook who wants to buy a restaurant after working at one for 10 years.

- There's also a new wave, partly driven by social media, of people looking for a "low maintenance" business like a laundromat to create cash flow. They quickly find out that even a 'passive' business is a real job, but it's a growing trend.

And on the more sophisticated end, you have roll-up funds and private equity groups who see the massive opportunity in that $10 trillion wealth transfer and are looking to professionalize this space.

To us, it’s honestly a mind-bending cross-section of the economy. Thanks for asking!

lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
browningstreet · 3 months ago
so an ebay of local businesses? :-)

personally, having done these kinds of exercises too many times, i think you're over-committing to the two pillzars of "zillow" & "market". zillow is a kind of market, at least in the elastic zone of marketing associations.

lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
:'-) feedback much appreciated and taken!
lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
dzonga · 3 months ago
how far are you with creating data summaries ? ideating stage, testing ?

& how are you getting the data / verifying from the businesses that are selling.

lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
hey, thanks for the follow up question dzonga!

To answer your first one, we're past ideation and are actively building the data room now. We have the financial data in-house for a large number of listings, this is about writing the code to present it in a secure and dynamic way.

As for where the data comes from, there are two main paths:

- The vast majority of our listings come from direct partnerships with brokerages. We integrate with their systems to sync their inventory, so the data is professionally vetted before it even gets to us.

- For the smaller number of 'For Sale By Owner' listings, it's a manual process for now. We check and reach out to verify the numbers, and we always connect the owner with a professional broker to help guide them, which adds another layer of validation.

So a good rule of thumb on the platform right now, if you see a broker on the listing, they've vetted thoroughly the data.

It's in our roadmap to automate the process for sell by owner case so that we can hook directly integrate with accounting / tax / hr software and present live numbers.

lots of work to do but making good progress!

lifenautjoe commented on Show HN: Venturu – Zillow for the market of local businesses   venturu.com... · Posted by u/lifenautjoe
browningstreet · 3 months ago
"for the market of local businesses" sounds like awkward AI speak
lifenautjoe · 3 months ago
oof, we spent over 2 hours debating what the title should be.. Zillow for local businesses, A zillow for main street, a Main street marketplace, a Local business zillow... we ended up going to "market of local businesses" because we though "zillow for local businesses" could be misinterpreted as a tool that we offer to local businesses exclusively, rather than a market..

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