The time of the nation-state is ending and the time of corpo-feudalism is beginning.
Have you checked why feudalism ended?
Readit Newsjoules77 commented on Sunday at the garden party for Curtis Yarvin and the new, new right ft.com/content/0e244103-8... · Posted by u/slater
> Yarvin is an example of what happens to technical people who spend too much time thinking complex systems can be viewed through a rational lens.
More like, Yarvin is a willing tool without a clue about systems, rationality or politics for that matter. His thinking stopped long time ago when his friends and investors showed him the green - the universal lobotomizer.
>If you ask them why things like [Ethics] emerge
Nothing emerges these days, it's planted and grown, industrial farming style. Besides, asking a puppet is a nonsensical endeavor.
The current US power grab requires legitimization, thus the appropriate plants are being fertilized. One of the most potent crops is of course Nazism, the push has started at least 10 years ago, there is nothing new here and this isn't a surprise to anyone who knows something about human nature and political history.
> their framework to explain reality and transformation starts breaking down.
"Their framework" is going to break down a lot of good things before it starts breaking down itself... and empty pleas for [ethics] can do absolutely nothing to stop it.
There was no plea in my comment. Was just pointing out their blind spots which they will discover soon enough. But the tech folk here, who are trained to think dashboards, metrics, scale and efficiency are the answer to handling complexity/unpredictability can get easily carried away by the Yarvin's of the world, because you won't hear much talk about the blind spots here. We already saw how carried away they were with Elon/DOGE. Can't avoid reality.
joules77 commented on Sunday at the garden party for Curtis Yarvin and the new, new right ft.com/content/0e244103-8... · Posted by u/slater
wtf did I just read, what the hell are we doing
Yarvin is an example of what happens to technical people who spend too much time thinking complex systems can be viewed through a rational lens.
If you ask them why things like Morality, Justice, Love, Forgiveness, Beauty, Empathy, Cooperation etc emerge their framework to explain reality and transformation starts breaking down.
>Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000
53k, wow.
I don't know what they're doing except just wiping out people, relatives, livelihoods... and just creating more desperate people who will think extremist groups have the answers.
The Germans wiped out 6 million Jews. Why do Israel and Germany get along today?
This isnt shocking considering Zuckerbergs comments.
I'm kinda shocked it happened this fast though. We had headlines of billion dollar offers for AI engineers and a few weeks later it all came crashing down.
Apparently their AI said Zuck himself is the real impediment to super intelligence after seeing Zucks metaverse avatar.
Some comments:
1. AI bros like Altman, Bezos, Dario, Elon have an incentive to convince the government to ban all Nvidia exports. It slows down China's progress and it gives the AI bros more GPU supply at a lower price due to less competition.
2. China is doing what OpenAI promised to do: opening AI access for all.
3. China has the will, power generation, and the talent to succeed in AI but they're bottlenecked by the most advanced AI chips.
4. Stopping AI chip exports to China is a win for US AI labs as a whole in the short term but could build a stronger China in the long-run as money will flow to local companies. So I'm guessing great for US AI labs in the next 5 years but a more imposing challenger in 2030.
5. I very much dislike the "good" vs "bad", "free" vs "oppressed" talk when it comes to why US should contain China's AI ambitions. Just call it what it is. It's competition that the US wants to find ways to gain an advantage. Stop using some sort of higher moral reason. It's just competition.
Thoughts of Xi, page 13 para 44, line 3 - "He who controls the soy sauce, controls the narrative."
joules77 commented on When Interest Rates Built the American Empire thefourthturningpoint.sub... · Posted by u/Qwertymango_13
Check out the commie Michael Hudson's - Superimperialism - or - https://michael-hudson.com/2023/07/global-economic-history-i...
joules77 commented on The Lives and Loves of James Baldwin newyorker.com/magazine/20... · Posted by u/Caiero
https://archive.ph/i2TSJ
"An interviewer once asked James Baldwin if he’d ever write something without a message. “No writer who ever lived,” Baldwin said, “could have written a line without a message.” This is true. People write because they have something to say. Baldwin had something to say, and he spent his life saying it. But many who thought they got his message didn’t get it at all....
That message was simple. We’re afraid of love, because we’re afraid of exposing our true selves. To manage that fear, we invent meaningless categories—Black, white, homosexual, heterosexual—and “other” the groups we don’t belong to in order to avoid a reckoning with ourselves."
Message may be simple, but reception is not just about fear, because the hardware we have to receive the message is quite a mess. And it has upper limits on how frequently it's beliefs can be updated.
Philosophers (and of late Psychologists a much younger field) have been telling us right from the time of Plato(mind = appetite vs spirit vs reason) to Hobbes (reason vs passions) to Freud (id vs ego vs superego) to Kahneman (System 1 vs System 2) to Haidt (Elephant-Rider metaphor) etc that our minds are imperfect machines.
So the simplicity of the message doesn't guarantee reception. The assumption is such unreliable machinery can receive messages perfectly. And that assumption constantly breaks down.
So from Baldwin you get to philosophers like Charles Taylor who tell us - the Church, one of the worlds oldest surviving institutions (not by accident), had to deal head on with this problem, since different minds interpret their messages very differently. Some minds we know in the "name of almighty god" will happily do whatever they feel like. Power has many ways of exploiting Love. So what do you do?
Judge them, label them, name and shame them? That was the first reaction and it was done in public as a large spectacle. But the system then evolves to private spaces where the act confession happens to a trained priest. If well trained, such people don't just put the focus not on shame and guilt but on growth. So until the person feels safe and encouraged to Recognize and talk about harm caused, which is what is supposed to happen in the intentionally architected safe space of a confessional (very similar to therapy), then there is a possibility for growth.
But if you notice the architecture today has totally flipped, the chimps are running around naming and shaming each other full time. So we have lots to learn from what has been tried out in the past. Charles Taylor is a good starting points for people interested in this stuff and how to create such possibilities in the real world.
Classism in higher education, science, etc is sadly all too common. Even those in the 'correct' class have uphill battles as science very much is vulnerable to ego, politics, etc and reform can be difficult, or in some cases impossible, regardless of merit.
It makes you wonder what obvious thing is being ignored right now due to these politics. I would not be 100% surprised if people in the future accepted things like 'ghost experiences' as normal things. There's just way too many stories and experiences to entirely write it off, but who knows. I feel like hand wavey excuses like third-man, carbon monoxide suddenly everywhere, thought experiments about brains releasing chemicals, calling everything a hallucination, intuition impossible to know conventionally just called luck, etc is the system trying hard to deny this.
Reminds me. On a Greyhound cross country trip, I got seated next to this pretty, well dressed, middle aged lady, that poor college student me, hardly ever saw on such trips. We start chatting and she tells me she is a Ghost Hunter. I took her at face value due previous experiences with real freaky characters on Greyhound, and was thinking oh great here we go again, thank you Greyhound, going to be stuck for hours next to another very strange kook. That kind of put me off further conversation. Then she starts taking out her papers to read, and says - want to see something weird? Shows me all sorts of stuff about different haunted houses. And I was just blown away by how well organized and detailed everything was. Later on she told me she was a PI doing investigations for real estate companies. But for a while it felt like I was sitting next to Scully reading X-Files.
What happens on social media is of the herd, by the herd, for the herd. As Nietzsche would say like organized religion it produces nothing but a herd or slave morality.
It will loose steam just like organized religion.