Dude what? This is incredible knowledge. I had been fearing this exact problem for so long, but there is an elegant out of the box solution. Thank you!!
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This sounds like the “t-shirt printers” of the 90s. While everyone was busy trying to invent the future, boring old manufacturing got ignored.
Turns out printing t-shirts isn’t that different from printing silicon. Now Taiwan produces 90% of the world’s advanced chips and NVIDIA is the most valuable company in the world.
Boom’s founder, Blake, comes from a e-commerce background. What a legend for this innovation.
People don’t want “cheap healthcare,” people want to be healthy.
And people don’t want “job training,” people want to be educated and have a fulfilling life.
Of course college looks too expensive if it is just “job training.” But that is not what college is.
College proved its immense value first, and then because of its obvious value, employers started looking for it. But you’ve let the cart get in front of the horse, by thinking that the value of a college education is simply that employers are looking for it.
The problem is there isn’t an alternative for people who want one. I’m self educated and self employed, and yet I’m forced to pay for healthcare I don’t need, and compete against those with the pedigree of an Ivy League.
My issue is these things boil down to class. There should be a legitimate, high quality alternative for those who can’t afford it.
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I don’t think many people are quite that myopic in their views.
Many people are. Several of my immediate family members. And several prominent intellectuals including Yudkowsky and Hinton, both fathers of the field.
Yudkowsky wrote a 250 page book to say "we must limit all commercial GPU clusters to a maximum of 8." That is terrifyingly myopic, and look at the reviews on Amazon. 4.6 stars (574). That is what scares me.
I respect Ilya hugely as a researcher in ML and quite admire his overall humility, but I have to say I cringed quite a bit at the start of this interview when he talks about emotions, their relative complexity, and origin. Emotion is so complex, even taking all the systems in the body that it interacts with. And many mammals have very intricate socio-emotional lives - take Orcas or Elephants. There is an arrogance I have seen that is typical of ML (having worked in the field) that makes its members too comfortable trodding into adjacent intellectual fields they should have more respect and reverence for. Anyone else notice this? It's something physicists are often accused of also.
I think smart people across all domains fall for the trap of being overconfident in their ability to reason outside of their area of expertise. I admire those who don't, but alas we are human.
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I do think we need to be hyper focused on this. We do not need more ways for people to be convinced of suicide. This is a huge misalignment of objectives and we do not know what other misalignment issues are already more silently happening or may appear in the future as AI capabilities evolve.
Also we can’t deny the emotional element. Even though it is subjective, knowing that the reason your daughter didn’t seek guidance from you and committed suicide was because a chatbot convinced her of so must be gut wrenching. So far I’ve seen two instances of attempted suicide driven by AI in my small social circle. And it has made me support banning general AI usage at times.
Nowadays I’m not sure if it should or even could be banned, but we DO have to invest significant resources to improve alignment, otherwise we risk that in the future AI does more harm than good.
I largely agree with what you’re saying. Certainly alignment should be improved to never encourage suicide.
But I also think we should consider the broader context. Suicide isn’t new, and it’s been on the rise. I’ve suffered from very dark moments myself. It’s a deep, complex issue, inherently tied to technology. But it’s more than that. For me, it was not having an emotionally supportive environment that led to feelings of deep isolation. And it’s very likely that part of why I expanded beyond my container was because I had access to ideas on the internet that my parents never did.
I never consulted AI in these dark moments, I didn’t have the option, and honestly that may have been for the best.
And you might be right. Pointed bans, for certain groups and certain use cases might make sense. But I hear a lot of people calling for a global ban, and that concerns me.
Considering how we improve the broad context, I genuinely see AI as having potential for creating more aware, thoughtful, and supportive people. That’s just based on how I use AI personally, it genuinely helps me refine my character and process trauma. But I had to earn that ability through a lot of suffering and maturing.
I don’t really have a point. Other than admitting my original comment used logical fallacies, but I didn’t intend to diminish the complexity of this conversation. But I did. And it is clearly a very complex issue.
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> coconuts kill 150 people per year
This appears to be a myth or not clearly verified:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_coconut
> The origin of the death by coconut legend was a 1984 research paper by Dr. Peter Barss, of Provincial Hospital, Alotau, Milne Bay Province, Papua New Guinea, titled "Injuries Due to Falling Coconuts", published in The Journal of Trauma (now known as The Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery). In his paper, Barss observed that in Papua New Guinea, where he was based, over a period of four years 2.5% of trauma admissions were for those injured by falling coconuts. None were fatal but he mentioned two anecdotal reports of deaths, one several years before. That figure of two deaths went on to be misquoted as 150 worldwide, based on the assumption that other places would have a similar rate of falling coconut deaths.
I have been lied to. Dammit.
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Not sure if I am missing the joke here, and admittedly, it is somewhat beside the point, but the coconut statistic is an urban legend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_coconut
Damn. I really wanted to hate coconuts.
joshtbradley commented on What OpenAI did when ChatGPT users lost touch with reality nytimes.com/2025/11/23/te... · Posted by u/nonprofiteer
I get your point and think in a similar way. The difference between AI and the coconuts is -> there is no way deaths by coconuts increase by 10000000x, but for AI it's possible.
The reasons we have not - and probably will not - remove obvious bad causes is, that a small group of people has huge monetary incentives to keep the status quo.
It would be so easy to e.g. reduce the amount of sugar (without banning it), or to have a preventive instead of a reactive healthcare system.
I’m not so sure that’s true. There are many examples of OpenAI putting in aggressive guardrails after learning how their product had been misused.
But the problem you surface is real. Companies like porn AI don’t care, and are building the equivalent of sugar laced products. I haven’t considered that and need to think more about it.
(I'm not just about pelicans.)