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jnxx commented on I guess I was wrong about AI persuasion   dynomight.substack.com/p/... · Posted by u/paulpauper
jnxx · 2 days ago
What I think he is wrong with is that LLMs are, despite being named as "Artificial Intelligence", not intelligent .

I guess that some people confound the source of information with its medium. A book might contain Newtons equation of motion, Gauss' works, Maxwell's equations, or an introduction of Einstein's theory of special relativity. But it is not the book that is intelligent, it is the people that wrote up the ideas.

You can see that confusion between the medium and authority by the holy scriptures of the large religions which were among the first human organizations that employed written words for their purposes - for example, muslim and Jewish people treat their respective foundational books as holy themselves.

With LLMs, it is clear that when you average the writing of many more or less intelligent people, the result might appear more or less intelligent. In the same way as common sense, sometimes, does make sense. But it is still not the medium that is intelligent, but the authors of the input.

But what the blog author is probably right about is persuasion by influencing communities which in turn influence individuals. That is exactly how Googles or Facebooks practices that violate privacy - like offering free emails accounts which use data from personal mails for advertising - became widely accepted even if it is clear they are not good for individuals.

I think that dimension of persuasion might be often overlooked when people, for example, think about the Cambridge Analytica scandal:

https://longform.org/posts/the-great-british-brexit-robbery

https://www.europeanpressprize.com/article/great-british-bre...

https://ia601000.us.archive.org/28/items/civ53332855/great-b...

jnxx commented on Developer's block   underlap.org/developers-b... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
libraryofbabel · 3 days ago
Mathematician JE Littlewood was a big proponent of walking and shaving for ideas:

> “Illumination, which can happen in a fraction of a second, is the emergence of the creative idea into the conscious. This almost always occurs when the mind is in a state of relaxation, and engaged lightly with ordinary matters. Helmholtz's ideas usually came to him when he was walking in hilly country. There is a lot to be said for walking during rest periods, unpopular as the idea may be. Incidentally, the relaxed activity of shaving can be a fruitful source of minor ideas; I used to postpone it, when possible, till after a period of work.”

I also recommend walking, I leave shaving to the men to try, and would add that like many others the shower is my most happy place for ideas and hitting on the causes of difficult bugs.

jnxx · 2 days ago
The foundation of quantum physics being developed with plenty of hikes and walks outside is almost a science meme. These researchers took a lot of very productive breaks.
jnxx commented on Japan city drafts ordinance to cap smartphone use at 2 hours per day   english.kyodonews.net/art... · Posted by u/Improvement
lll-o-lll · 3 days ago
Smartphones are banned at school in Aus, for a strong net positive. Kids still sneak them into toilets and so on (and vapes), but the overwhelming impact has been positive.
jnxx · 3 days ago
So what needs to happen to ban smartphone use while driving? I mean not "formally forbidden" but "thoroughly enforced".

Personally, I avoid phone use even as a pedestrian in busy city spaces - I think the time it takes to fully switch attention to be fully aware of things like a reckless driver running a red light is too long to not affect safety.

jnxx commented on LLM code generation may lead to an erosion of trust   jaysthoughts.com/aithough... · Posted by u/CoffeeOnWrite
stavros · 2 months ago
Sure, your heuristic no longer works, and that's a bit inconvenient. We'll just find new ones.
jnxx · 2 months ago
Too bad that the language we use is also a demonstration of social status. If I think about it, it could have a somewhat corrosive effect on that glue that keeps society in shape.
jnxx commented on LLM code generation may lead to an erosion of trust   jaysthoughts.com/aithough... · Posted by u/CoffeeOnWrite
somewhereoutth · 2 months ago
Because when people use LLMs, they are getting the tool to do the work for them, not using the tool to do the work. LLMs are not calculators, nor are they the internet.

A good rule of thumb is to simply reject any work that has had involvement of an LLM, and ignore any communication written by an LLM (even for EFL speakers, I'd much rather have your "bad" English than whatever ChatGPT says for you).

I suspect that as the serious problems with LLMs become ever more apparent, this will become standard policy across the board. Certainly I hope so.

jnxx · 2 months ago
We already treat spam and unsolicited commercial email that way.
jnxx commented on LLM code generation may lead to an erosion of trust   jaysthoughts.com/aithough... · Posted by u/CoffeeOnWrite
dirkc · 2 months ago
I use it to mean that the more people trust each other, the quicker things get done. Maybe the statement can be rephrased as "progress happens at the speed of trust" to avoid the specific scientific connotation.
jnxx · 2 months ago
Trust is also essential for any form of symbolic information exchange.

Humans communicate using symbols. That could be patterns of sound waves, gestures, or written characters.

If we can't trust that the communicated symbols match their agreed meaning, what is the use of them? Communication breaks down quickly, and being social individuals which inter-depend on others, we can't live without communication. Nobody likes a liar, and the reason is, the words they give us do not match what they mean. (Perhaps not only humans. I read that dolphins readily come and rescue individuals which are drowning - including humans - but they punish individuals which fake drowning.)

And that goes from every stratum of social interaction, from big treaties to selling a bagel. Would you sell a bagel for a fake dollar bill? The number on it is a symbol as well, it has a meaning.

So it is right down one of the very bases of human cooperation.

jnxx commented on Crunch – a Scheme compiler with a minimal runtime   more-magic.net/posts/crun... · Posted by u/sjamaan
fouric · 8 months ago
For Common Lispers such as myself, who are vaguely aware of developments in the Scheme space: the most important difference between CRUNCH and Chicken appears to be that, while both compile down to C/object code, CRUNCH is additionally targeting a statically-typed subset of Scheme.

Opinion: this is great. The aversion of Lispers to static types is historical rather than intrinsic and reflects the relative difference in expressiveness between program semantics and type semantics (and runtime vs tooling) for much of computing. Now that types and tools are advancing, static Lisps are feasible, and I love that.

jnxx · 8 months ago
What are the main differences between OcamML and a statically typed Lisp?
jnxx commented on Crunch – a Scheme compiler with a minimal runtime   more-magic.net/posts/crun... · Posted by u/sjamaan
iainctduncan · 8 months ago
This just made my day. I'm the author of Scheme for Max, an extension to the Max music programming environment that puts the s7 Scheme interpreter in it for scripting note-event level code (not dsp). It would be fantastic to also be able to use a subset of Scheme for generating DSP level code, where speed would be more important than dynamic typing or continuations/tco/etc.

I will be watching this closely!

jnxx · 8 months ago
what do you think about pre-scheme?
jnxx commented on Is the Atlantic Overturning Circulation Approaching a Tipping Point?   tos.org/oceanography/arti... · Posted by u/Anon84
jnxx · a year ago
I am aware that reports on the topic have been submitted before.

This is a fantastic, well-written article by world-class climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf.

jnxx commented on Taking Big Oil to court for 'climate homicide' isn't as far-fetched as it sounds   grist.org/accountability/... · Posted by u/Brajeshwar
Bostonian · a year ago
"A new legal theory suggests that oil companies could be taken to court for every kind of homicide in the United States, short of first-degree murder."

"Big Oil" has been legally selling products that consumers want. Why not also accuse individuals of murder when their cars consume X gallons of gasoline?

jnxx · a year ago
Being fully in the know of the consequences makes a very big difference - both ethically, and legally.

u/jnxx

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