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jim_kreggis commented on Investors sue Treasury Department for blacklisting crypto platform Tornado Cash   nytimes.com/2022/09/08/bu... · Posted by u/CapitalistCartr
TremendousJudge · 3 years ago
Good thing we have the North Korean government and CP traders on our side, defending our rights.
jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
Same old pro-mass surveillance arguments, we need it because there are terrorists and pedos
jim_kreggis commented on Investors sue Treasury Department for blacklisting crypto platform Tornado Cash   nytimes.com/2022/09/08/bu... · Posted by u/CapitalistCartr
eropple · 3 years ago
> In an of itself, mixing or trading to obfuscate your identity shouldn't be considered a crime or unreasonable in the slightest.

"Financial privacy" isn't a real thing, because you owe taxes on income and investments. Can you explain to me how your tax assessor is able, then, to properly identify your income and tax you on it as appropriate?

(Money laundering and tax evasion do not always go hand-in-hand. Many launderers pay taxes as a cost of doing business. Cryptocurrency mixers seem to treat tax evasion as a feature.)

jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
Your employer has your salary on record, so having financial privacy in no way prevents taxes being collected. Likewise you trade stocks through a broker, who knows how much you have in your brokerage account.
jim_kreggis commented on Assassination Politics (1997)   jya.com/ap.htm... · Posted by u/Tomte
asah · 3 years ago
Lol. So many flaws... but nobody knew in 1997...

For one thing, life imprisonment (LiP) is a pretty big deterrent, and among the few willing to risk it, defense tech and the surveillance state are generally winning the arms race against individual actors and small groups ("terrorists"). Lots of people want to kill world leaders and yet assassination attempts (let alone successes!) are quite rare. This leaves the question of less-defended people, and there it's more mixed: it's much easier to do but 10^6-10^10 fewer people want to kill them which makes it a lot easier to catch the conspirators simply by tracking who had motive. Finally, everyday victims don't usually have haters with enough capital to motivate someone to risk LiP - again, making it easy to track down the perps by motive.

jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
Yeah, there's no way this would lead to minimal government, the exact opposite would happen.
jim_kreggis commented on Fark.com's live thread during the Sept. 11 attacks   fark.com/comments/45086/N... · Posted by u/cpp_frog
selimnairb · 3 years ago
The breakup of the US and diffusion of its ability to exert influence would be a net positive in my opinion. It would no doubt cause a lot of pain in the US though (as the loss of the USD as reserve currency would likely be a consequence).
jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
China would just step in
jim_kreggis commented on Defending Privacy in Crypto   blog.coinbase.com/defendi... · Posted by u/barmstrong
ricochet11 · 3 years ago
First off, i like cash and try to do most transactions with cash.

But in an increasingly computational world it seems useful, probably inevitable, that digital programmable money will play a bigger part in the future.

So do we want p2p borderless networks, built on a history of foss and the internet, with varying mixtures of privacy and transparency? or do we want government digital coins that will likely be fully surveilled and centrally controlled?

which is more resilient? which is harder to corrupt? which provides everyday people with liberty and control? which removes power from rulers and pushes it to participants?

"We should keep cash" doesn't seem like a reasonable stance to take at this point. We need to defend our rights to publish free open source code, to freely associate over networks with other individuals and organisations, and to maintain/develop our privacy in our private interactions.

I dont see the version made by the government respecting those concerns, it is too easy to throw up a patriot act, to say "what about the paedophiles/terrorists/drugdealers" and suddenly law abiding citizens have their rights restricted and power becomes ever more centralised and hierarchical.

It is surprising to me to come to a site called hackernews, and see such little hacker spirit. It really feels that "crypto is icky" idea has taken hold so strongly that people are happy to give up their rights because the people they dont like will be less profitable. That is incredibly sad.

It seems if you post a SAAS website for finding rare sneakers you get HN praise as though that is peak culture, but if you choose to hack on money, ownership, provision of public goods, voting, borderless systems, and anonymous organisations, to actually address what power and democracy looks like in our future you are too close the dirty people. No we must stay as we are, we must trust the institutions, because everyone was happy before bitcoin, right?...

jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
"people are happy to give up their rights because the people they dont like will be less profitable"

This is the real reason people get so irrationally mad about crypto. There's no difference between the importance of encrypted communication and encrypted transactions, except that there's money involved. There's many people using web3 hype and bullshit as a grift, and many (most) people who see crypto as a speculative bubble they can get in on but neither of these things change the fact that it's the only trustless form of digitial payment we have. Terrorists can kill thousands of people, governments can kill millions, so I'm much more worried about one than the other.

jim_kreggis commented on Defending Privacy in Crypto   blog.coinbase.com/defendi... · Posted by u/barmstrong
anon9001 · 3 years ago
Crypto can technically implement privacy and anonymity in a way that regulators cannot prevent. Now what do we do about it?

Also, Ethereum could adopt privacy by default some day, via their proposal process.

It's fascinating to watch regulators talk about "bitcoin" and "ethereum" as if they're "gold" and "oil", unchanging commodities that just need to be categorized and dealt with appropriately.

Ethereum is totally publicly visible today, but it does not need to be that way tomorrow. These are living projects.

jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
I agree, the Tornado cash situation just shows the importance of making privacy a primary consideration in the currency itself
jim_kreggis commented on Defending Privacy in Crypto   blog.coinbase.com/defendi... · Posted by u/barmstrong
EdwardDiego · 3 years ago
Sure, just like you have the potential to import heroin in your GI tract.
jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
Do you want to actually reply or just be snarky?

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jim_kreggis commented on Defending Privacy in Crypto   blog.coinbase.com/defendi... · Posted by u/barmstrong
EdwardDiego · 3 years ago
Anyone who genuinely thought that cryptocurrency would be usable for completely anonymous transactions without regulation is woefully näive.

Note I used "would" not "should", the latter is ideology, the former acknowledgement of reality.

jim_kreggis · 3 years ago
The point is crypto has potential to be used whether regulators like it or not. Regulators will do everything they can to prevent this of course, but it at least means we have the potential to transact privately vs. not having any chance at all.

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