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jensensbutton commented on IBM orders US sales to locate near customers, RTO for cloud staff, DEI purge   theregister.com/2025/04/1... · Posted by u/rntn
jgalt212 · 4 months ago
Just because you don't like people or tribe supporting a policy or their motives supporting such policies doesn't make a policy good or bad or valid or invalid. During COVID times, some statements or policies that turned out to be true were overly supported by some b wacky and or political undesirable people. Reacting to this, many decisions or policies stayed in place or were undertaken.
jensensbutton · 4 months ago
Is this an argument to keep DEI in place?
jensensbutton commented on IBM orders US sales to locate near customers, RTO for cloud staff, DEI purge   theregister.com/2025/04/1... · Posted by u/rntn
AnthonyMouse · 4 months ago
The anti-DEI argument is that modern racial disparities are predominantly caused by economic circumstances, e.g. black people are more likely to be poor and then less likely to have to startup capital to start their own business or be able to afford to attend a high status university. The same applies to white people who don't have affluent parents. "White people who grew up poor" are under-represented at the top of society.

So the underlying problem here is economic opportunity, not race. To fix it you need to e.g. make it easier for someone without rich parents to start a business by lowering barriers to entry and regulatory overhead on small entities. That allows both poor black people and poor white people to get ahead without discriminating against anyone, but still reduces the racial disparity because black people are disproportionately poor.

It's basically Goodhart's law. Because of the existing correlation between race and poverty, continuing racial disparities are a strong proxy for insufficient upward mobility, but you want to solve the actual problem and not just fudge the metric through race quotas etc.

jensensbutton · 4 months ago
This is a simplistic view. E.g. how does this argument account for the data we have that someone with black sounding name will get less opportunity than someone with a white sounding name and an identical resume? In this case the lower chances to get ahead have nothing to do with economic circumstance.
jensensbutton commented on IBM orders US sales to locate near customers, RTO for cloud staff, DEI purge   theregister.com/2025/04/1... · Posted by u/rntn
disambiguation · 4 months ago
All social injustice stems from the first law of economics: there isn't enough to go around. DEI will come and go, but so long as we lack the wealth to meet everyones needs (and wants), there will always be inequity. The real question is, does anyone have an idea of what a fair world looks like in the mean time? Why do people disagree on what that fair world looks like? Is it a fools errand to try and make the world fair when there's no clear goal to move towards? How do folks who support DEI think of it in the above context?
jensensbutton · 4 months ago
I think this is a perfect example of gp's comment.
jensensbutton commented on Apple's Software Quality Crisis   eliseomartelli.it/blog/20... · Posted by u/ajdude
jensensbutton · 6 months ago
Presumably their experience.
jensensbutton commented on Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting   bbc.com/news/live/c625ex2... · Posted by u/yakkomajuri
zmgsabst · 6 months ago
American working and middle classes have been devastated over the course of forty years by bad trade deals.

They’re the constituency that supports Trump.

Numbers like GDP or total wealth will be highly misleading — and it’s unsurprising that the opinion of the petite bourgeoisie (who primarily make up HN) differ from those groups.

jensensbutton · 6 months ago
What you're describing is an American domestic policy issue.

There's no dispute that America has become incredibly more rich and powerful over the past 40 years. The fact that that money is increasingly funneled to fewer and fewer people (as a percent of the population) is something that can be changed locally, without changing our foreign policy stance.

It's not a surprise that the "devastation" of the middle class coincides with the continued reduction of tax rates on the entities collecting all that money. The America that MAGA seems to think was great was one of higher taxes and more social programs.

jensensbutton commented on It is no longer safe to move our governments and societies to US clouds   berthub.eu/articles/posts... · Posted by u/Sami_Lehtinen
danaris · 6 months ago
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jensensbutton · 6 months ago
On the contrary this is exactly what they said they'd do if elected. This is exactly what was voted for. Don't pretend like Americans didn't have agency in the destruction of their own country.
jensensbutton commented on The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE   wired.com/story/elon-musk... · Posted by u/medler
ahmeneeroe-v2 · 7 months ago
I agree with your numbers. If we're seeing this much resistance to cutting down mostly foreign-focused programs, would you really be making this comment if Elon/Trump were trying to cut social security, medicare/aid, etc?
jensensbutton · 7 months ago
I think it's primarily the "how" that people are resisting. I'm not sure why that's being dismissed.
jensensbutton commented on Ask HN: Promoted, but Career Path Derailed    · Posted by u/golly_ned
zo1 · 7 months ago
It's hard to do this when this person has gone out to prove themselves in the first place. The company has to reciprocate, otherwise they're "double" asking that person. Like with any trust-based system, it should be a series of reciprocations with increasing levels of trust/reward/value. If one of them skips it, and still expects the other side to do their level of increase, then that is when an imbalance happens and feelings of resentment being to take hold.
jensensbutton · 7 months ago
> The company has to reciprocate

OP was promoted. Question is now whether OP makes the company regret their decision or not.

jensensbutton commented on Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs   axios.com/2025/01/10/meta... · Posted by u/bsilvereagle
ken47 · 7 months ago
Folks from a given country tend to network with and feel more comfortable with people from said country, affecting their hiring and promotion practices. That’s only natural.
jensensbutton · 7 months ago
Thought we were supposed to hire on merit. These folks are lowering the bar.
jensensbutton commented on Meta's memo to employees rolling back DEI programs   axios.com/2025/01/10/meta... · Posted by u/bsilvereagle
chii · 7 months ago
"we have the same product/service, and charge the same price as all our competitors. But because we're owned/operated/benefits minorities, you should be choosing us as a form of guilt driven affirmative action"
jensensbutton · 7 months ago
If all the competitors have the same quality and price then you're always going to be using some subjective criteria to decide between them. Why is choosing a minority supplier worse than any other criteria in this case?

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