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jaennaet commented on We Let AI Run Our Office Vending Machine. It Lost Hundreds of Dollars   wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic... · Posted by u/lukaspetersson
asdff · a day ago
I think there is something to be said about the value of bad information. For example, pre ai, how might you come to the correct answer for something? You might dig into the underlying documentation or whatever "primary literature" exist for that thing and get the correct answer.

However, that was never very many people. Only the smart ones. Many would prefer to have shouted into the void at reddit/stackoverflow/quora/yahoo answers/forums/irc/whatever, to seek an "easy" answer that is probably not entirely correct if you bothered going right to the source of truth.

That represents a ton of money controlling that pipeline and selling expensive monthly subscriptions to people to use it. Even better if you can shoehorn yourself into the workplace, and get work to pay for it at a premium per user. Get people to come to rely on it and have no clue how to deal with anything without it.

It doesn't matter if it's any good. That isn't even the point. It just has to be the first thing people reach for and therefore available to every consumer and worker, a mandatory subscription most people now feel obliged to pay for.

This is why these companies are worth billions. Not for the utility, but from the money to be made off of the people who don't know any better.

jaennaet · a day ago
But the thing is that they aren't even making money; eg. OpenAI lost $11 billion in one quarter. Big LLMs are just so fantastically expensive to train and operate, and they ultimately really aren't as useful to eg businesses as they've been evangelised as so demand just hasn't picked up – plus the subscription plans are priced so low that most if not all "LLM operators" (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc) apparently actually lose money on even the most expensive ones. They'd lose all their customers if the plans actually cost as much as they should.

Apropos to that, I wonder if OpenAI et al are losing money on API plans too, or if it's just the subscriptions.

Source for the OpenAI loss figure: https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/29/microsoft_earnings_q1...

Source for OpenAI losing money on their $200/mo sub: https://fortune.com/2025/01/07/sam-altman-openai-chatgpt-pro...

jaennaet commented on We Let AI Run Our Office Vending Machine. It Lost Hundreds of Dollars   wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic... · Posted by u/lukaspetersson
citizenpaul · 2 days ago
Its little things like this that give you laughs. Every company talks about how great their security is. Yet at the same time their CEO is chomping at the bit to cram AI into every aspect of their business. A product that may fundamentally not be able to be secured as we know at this time.

Reality is hilarious.

jaennaet · 2 days ago
Reality would be much funnier if I didn't have to live in it
jaennaet commented on We Let AI Run Our Office Vending Machine. It Lost Hundreds of Dollars   wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic... · Posted by u/lukaspetersson
Tarsul · 2 days ago
After watching the video: It feels like this is basically the same result as what would've happened with ChatGPT in December 2022 with a custom prompt. I mean ok, probably more back and forth to break it but in the end... it feels like nothing's really changed, has it? (and yes, programmers might argue otherwise, but for the general "chatbot" experience for the general audience I really feel like we are treading water)
jaennaet · 2 days ago
LLMs really can't be improved all that much beyond what we currently have, because they're fundamentally limited by their architecture, which is what ultimately leads to this sort of behaviour.

Unfortunately the AI bubble seems to be predicated on just improving LLMs and really really hoping that they'll magically turn into even weakly general AIs (or even AGIs like the worst Kool-aid drinkers claim they will), so everybody is throwing absolutely bonkers amounts of money at incremental improvements to existing architectures, instead of doing the hard thing and trying to come up with better architectures.

I doubt static networks like LLMs (or practically all other neural networks that are currently in use) will ever be candidates for general AI. All they can do is react to external input, they don't have any sort of an "inner life" outside of that, ie. the network isn't active except when you throw input at it. They literally can't even learn, and (re)training them takes ridiculous amounts of money and compute.

I'd wager that for producing an actual AGI, spiking neural networks or something similar to them would be what you'd want to lean in to, maybe with some kind of neuroplasticity-like mechanism. Spiking networks already exist and they can do some pretty cool stuff, but nowhere near what LLMs can do right now (even if they do do it kinda badly). Currently they're harder to train than more traditional static NNs because they're not differentiable so you can't do backpropagation, and they're still relatively new so there's a lot of open questions about eg. the uses and benefits of different neural models and such.

jaennaet commented on Airbus A320 Fly by wire corrupted by radiation in flight   viewfromthewing.com/airbu... · Posted by u/JohannMac
lysace · 22 days ago
It's okay to not be nationalistic all of the time. Airbus will survive this extreme edge case. None of these comments matter in the bigger picture.
jaennaet · 22 days ago
Based on your ad hominem of a reply I suppose it's safe to assume you don't have the experience, then
jaennaet commented on Your smartphone, their rules: App stores enable corporate-government censorship   aclu.org/news/free-speech... · Posted by u/pabs3
quantummagic · a month ago
Silos. You can create your own and say anything you want (only constrained by the law). Everyone else can join it, or blacklist it, for themselves. Nobody gets to shut off someone else's silo, they can only ignore it for themselves. Nobody gets to decide what other people choose to read or write.

For the case of Reddit, a silo maps nicely onto a subreddit. Within any subreddit the moderator can have full control, they can moderate it exactly as they choose. If you don't like it, create your own where you will have free rein.

jaennaet · a month ago
What about content that is illegal in the country that your "silo" is hosted in, like, say, CSAM (but you can really really substitute anything else illegal there, like eg. planning terrorist attacks)? If a "silo" is CSAM-friendly or its express purpose is posting it and its moderators don't want to remove illegal content, what then?
jaennaet commented on Your smartphone, their rules: App stores enable corporate-government censorship   aclu.org/news/free-speech... · Posted by u/pabs3
nxor · a month ago
Speaking of reddit: that doesn't justify a miniscule amount of people deciding what the rest of users may express.
jaennaet · a month ago
What is your proposed alternative, though?
jaennaet commented on Google Antigravity   antigravity.google/... · Posted by u/Fysi
Filligree · a month ago
More likely the credits system runs on eventual consistency, and he hit a different backend.
jaennaet · a month ago
If there's something I'd expect Google to use a strong consistency model for, it'd be a credit system like that.

Well, not that they don't do stupid things all the time, but having credits live on a system with a weak consistency model would be silly.

jaennaet commented on Google boss says AI investment boom has 'elements of irrationality'   bbc.com/news/articles/cwy... · Posted by u/jillesvangurp
JumpCrisscross · a month ago
> since it probably wouldn't cause there to be an actual hole, its really more about long term fab build plans than anything else

Equities are forward looking. TSMC's valuation doesn't make sense if it doesn't have a backlog to grow into.

jaennaet · a month ago
Exactly. A drop in the expected growth would absolutely cause a drop in valuation as investors reassess their holdings
jaennaet commented on Google boss says AI investment boom has 'elements of irrationality'   bbc.com/news/articles/cwy... · Posted by u/jillesvangurp
wmf · a month ago
Yeah, TSMC demand might go down from 300% to 100%.
jaennaet · a month ago
So yes, it would have an effect; even with your imaginary numbers that'd be a 3x drawdown
jaennaet commented on I don’t need a Steam Machine   brainbaking.com/post/2025... · Posted by u/ingve
rvz · a month ago
I think working on "AGI" is more important than getting a Steam Machine or any other console these days.
jaennaet · a month ago
What are you doing on Hacker News? You should be working on "AGI".

This may come as a surprise to you, but us humans need entertainment

u/jaennaet

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