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incahoots commented on The US is flirting with its first-ever population decline   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/alephnerd
incahoots · 13 hours ago
The economics no longer support families—and after decades of calls for “fiscal responsibility” across cultures and states, is it any wonder birthrates are falling? Burnout among the working class plays an equal part in the decline.

“It takes a village to raise a child” isn’t advice, it’s a policy framework because massive support is needed to rear kids and the majority today have less than their previous generations.

incahoots commented on Jury told that Meta, Google 'engineered addiction' at landmark US trial   techxplore.com/news/2026-... · Posted by u/geox
lukah · 14 hours ago
I'm not at all familiar with the American justice system, but would the fact that this case specifically describes the targeting of minors with such addictive tactics change things at all?
incahoots · 13 hours ago
Not really, cigarette companies targeted minors, same with alcohol, they got slapped on the wrist. Worth mentioning this happened during the rise of a neoliberal policy order of checks & balances.
incahoots commented on Jury told that Meta, Google 'engineered addiction' at landmark US trial   techxplore.com/news/2026-... · Posted by u/geox
quotemstr · 15 hours ago
"[T]hrive off the attention economy"? What a sinister way to describe building products that people want to use to connect to people whose words and images they enjoy. Nobody is pushing drugs here. There's no fraud or deception. The whole situation is Alice not liking the medium Bob and Charlie use to communicate and what they say to each other over it. Alice needs to mind her own business. She doesn't get to use the power of the state to separate Bob and Charlie just because she's indignant.

When you define "addiction" as anything people who at a level you consider excessive, the word expands to cover every domain of life and so becomes worse than useless.

incahoots · 14 hours ago
I’d argue that just because there’s no clear indication of fraud or deception immediately apparent doesn’t discount the reality that much of society has become dependent on their phones.

It’s pretty clear it’s designed that way—otherwise, its effectiveness wouldn’t be nearly as troubling as it is.

Advertising absolutely has overlap as of that of propaganda, and engagement remains the central focus of the millions of apps that populate stores and devices (along with the constant stream of ads that accompany them).

Working in transitional housing brings a unique perspective that’s often unshared with the vast majority of everyday people. When you do this for a time, you start to recognize patterns and the overlap in environments around you. In the case of addiction, it certainly applies to a whole swath of life that most never notice.

incahoots commented on Jury told that Meta, Google 'engineered addiction' at landmark US trial   techxplore.com/news/2026-... · Posted by u/geox
mentalgear · 15 hours ago
fun fact: the people working for those companies, even though the attribute they are optimizing for is "addictability", they call it "snackability". Probably b/c of motivation and ... legal.
incahoots · 14 hours ago
additional fun fact: Philip Morris (yes that one) controlled the majority of these companies and brands during the 80s & 90s.
incahoots commented on Jury told that Meta, Google 'engineered addiction' at landmark US trial   techxplore.com/news/2026-... · Posted by u/geox
gadders · 16 hours ago
Reminds me of a Judge Dredd story from the 80s.

A confectionary company invented a type of bubble gum (called "Umpty Candy") that became addictive not because it had any drugs in it, but because they kept optimising the taste until it became too delicious to refuse.

incahoots · 14 hours ago
I was thinking Robocop had the relevance factor these days, though I do enjoy the aesthetics of Dredd.
incahoots commented on Jury told that Meta, Google 'engineered addiction' at landmark US trial   techxplore.com/news/2026-... · Posted by u/geox
bitmasher9 · 16 hours ago
Large portions of the tech sector thrive off the attention economy. If your goal as a product is to have someone spend hours a day everyday engaged with your product, and you focus on a data driven approach to maximize the time spent on the app, then you’ll create something not dissimilar to addiction.
incahoots · 14 hours ago
I mean engagement is the game. The overlap of other mediums like TV, movies, music, gambling clearly have the same focus, though they could only wish to have the same death grip that social media has been tuned to achieve.
incahoots commented on Jury told that Meta, Google 'engineered addiction' at landmark US trial   techxplore.com/news/2026-... · Posted by u/geox
rzerowan · 15 hours ago
Will there be any outcome to remedy the situation from this even if actual harm is proven to the letter of the law?

Seems not so far back the Sacklkers were proven(?) to have profited and fueled the oiod crisis while colluding with the healthcare industry - and last i heard they were haggling over the fine to pay to the state. While using various financial loopholes to hide their wealth under bankrupcy and offshore instruments.

What then the trillion dollar companies that can drag out appeals for decades and obfuscate any/all recommendations that may be reached.

incahoots · 14 hours ago
And before that, it was the crack epidemic—and cigarettes before that. None of this is new tho, just the medium.

I recall Philip Morris pivoting their main business when it began hemorrhaging money. Essentially this pivot came in the form of becoming the largest “box-to-mouth” food producers in the world, of course applying the same addictive principles that fueled their tobacco empire to maintain profitability.

I doubt, however, social media corps like Meta will follow suit today—mostly because accountability feels more like a suggestion these days.

incahoots commented on America has a tungsten problem   noleary.com/blog/posts/1... · Posted by u/noleary
a2tech · a day ago
This website has no author attribution and this is the only article on it. I would be very suspicious of its claims (not that I disagree with them, just that unattributed works on brand new websites are not ALWAYS the most trustworthy).

The United States has exported the dirtiest businesses internationally for quite a few years (raw mineral extraction is a dirty, nasty business, with slim margins). Now that China has become more adversarial and also more established (you mean people want to actually get PAID to slave away in a mine, or even worse, refuse to even work in a dangerous and dirty pit mine?!) the US is facing some hard decisions. We need many of these materials, and we have them, but we haven't had the will to mine them. Lots of people want to open US government lands to these resource extraction outfits, but there's right worry about the potential for ecological destruction.

incahoots · a day ago
>Now that China has become more adversarial

I think it's the other way around here. I say that as China's policy has primarily focused on self-reliance to the degree that it's overshadowed the west in several sectors with the exception of a few (Tech/AI, Finance, Bio) and given their persistence to close the gap I'd say we aren't too far from being eclipsed entirely.

One just has to look at the economics of it all and come to the conclusion that many have already arrived at...

incahoots commented on US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19   reuters.com/legal/us-lawm... · Posted by u/thunderbong
incahoots · a year ago
This was always about running defense for the likes of Israel and it’s ongoing televised genocide….

This isn’t about national security, if it had been this would’ve never gotten as far as it has been, the door would’ve been closed long ago.

TikTok and its algorithm isn’t beholden to the US’s government mandate like the other social media platforms. It also just happens to be the one with the largest amount of users and engagement, compared to the others..

Anyone who’s been paying attention to the numerous times TikTok has been on the chopping block (nearly every year it’s existed) understand what’s at play here.

u/incahoots

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