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hutzlibu commented on AI 'hallucinated' fake legal cases filed to B.C. court in Canadian first   globalnews.ca/news/102386... · Posted by u/luu
echelon · 2 years ago
We never talked about the Internet's repercussions, and yet here we are.

Did we do a good job, or should we have left that stone unturned?

hutzlibu · 2 years ago
"Did we do a good job, or should we have left that stone unturned?"

Regarding the quality of the average Website - no , but also no to the second. The time of the internet was just there with no precedent and now it is hyped imperfect AIs we have to deal with. I think the main problem in both cases is, that most people don't have a clue at all, how it works. (And too many of them are in positions of power).

hutzlibu commented on Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right   npr.org/2024/01/21/122588... · Posted by u/geox
DeathArrow · 2 years ago
>So where is the solution fitting everyone? What can the politicians do, to make everyone happy?

Do it the Swiss way and ask people trough a plebiscite?

hutzlibu · 2 years ago
Oh yes, I am very much a fan of the swiss system (and consider moving there) and direct democracy wherever possible. But my point was, that a plebiscite does not change the fact, that the people are very divided themself. Also not everyone would accept those results, because they would argue, too many non white germans could vote who should not have the right etc. Some worldviews are just not compatible.

My solution? I would not mind if germany breaks up into smaller states. (The Swiss system works, because it is small.) Some white, some diverse, some whatever. If possible, all still members of the EU. But many nationalists would rather have civil war instead.

hutzlibu commented on Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right   npr.org/2024/01/21/122588... · Posted by u/geox
shiroiuma · 2 years ago
Mass rallies in Berlin and Munich aren't going to do much about blatant racism in Saxony. That's a bit like an American thinking that activism in NYC is going to have a real effect on the mentality of people in rural Mississippi. The values of people in those different areas are extremely different, and the people in the economically "left behind" regions are actually going to feel even more attacked by these rallies, most likely, since they already feel like their views are being ignored.
hutzlibu · 2 years ago
There were also some rallies in saxony and more are scheduled for next weekend. Way lower in numbers of course, but it is something. And it is a wake up call for people to come together, before it is too late.

"the people in the economically "left behind" regions are actually going to feel even more attacked by these rallies, most likely, since they already feel like their views are being ignored."

And most of those people radicalized during Covid (there is a big intersection of anti vaxx people with the AfD). They already live in their own universe - disconnected from any source that might challenge their worldview and they made up their mind already about everything. They are comfortable with a de facto Nazi Leader (Höcke) - and yes, they complain that they are getting ignored. But sorry, I would continue to ignore their views of a racist white germany. Apart from that, sure the big politics made many misstakes and did not care about those "left behind" regions at all. And yes, imposing top down, that a quite village suddenly has to host many war traumatized immigrants - was not the way to do it. But the big politics did - and just branded every concerns as racist.

That rightfully pissed people off. But being pissed off about the government is still no justification for becoming a Nazi in my opinion.

hutzlibu commented on Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right   npr.org/2024/01/21/122588... · Posted by u/geox
DeathArrow · 2 years ago
So they will finally give the people what they ask for? And stop doing what the people dislike?
hutzlibu · 2 years ago
"So they will finally give the people what they ask for? "

How is that possible, when the people themself are divided?

For example with weapon support for Ukraine:

"Some 44% believe sending Leopard 2 battle tanks to Kyiv is the wrong decision, according to the results of a survey by pollster YouGov published on Sunday.

At least 41% support the German government as it plans to send the first of 18 tanks to Ukraine "

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/majority-of-germans-against-...

And with immigration it is similar. Quite some literally want to protect germany as a white nation that speaks only german - but many don't. Many are sceptical of arab troublemakers, but otherwise like a diverse society.

So where is the solution fitting everyone? What can the politicians do, to make everyone happy?

hutzlibu commented on Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right   npr.org/2024/01/21/122588... · Posted by u/geox
nicbou · 2 years ago
Speaking only for myself with no sense of authority: there's something in the air that I'm not the only one feeling. Something very subtle seems off. The water is a little hotter, but subtly enough to say "nah it's not like that". The way I see it, tens of thousands took to the streets to make damn sure it won't be like that on their watch.

The AfD has gotten louder and stronger last year, and it's reaching further and further into other parties' voter bases, fueled by growing economic problems and contentious immigration policies.

hutzlibu · 2 years ago
"The AfD has gotten louder and stronger last year, and it's reaching further and further into other parties' voter bases"

They reached into actual daily politics of the government - because Chancellor Scholz now also say things like "we have to start massivly kicking immigrants out"

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/olaf-scholz-ueber...

hutzlibu commented on Tens of thousands protest in Germany against the rise of the far right   npr.org/2024/01/21/122588... · Posted by u/geox
hnhg · 2 years ago
Meanwhile the AfD is looking to at least double their share of the votes perhaps to almost 25% of the electorate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_G...
hutzlibu · 2 years ago
Yes and they likely will win in some eastern states.

"The party leads in several states in eastern Germany, the region where its support is strongest — including three, Brandenburg, Saxony and Thuringia, that are slated to hold elections this fall."

Which sucks, because I happen to live there. And my partner with latin american origins often experience racism here. So we are thinking of going away, but the mass rallies are giving me some hope.

hutzlibu commented on What happens when an astronaut in orbit says he's not coming back?   arstechnica.com/space/202... · Posted by u/martey
bityard · 2 years ago
I'm actually a little surprised that there wasn't some kind of lock on the hatch already. Not necessarily to deter the rare suicidal/homicidal astronaut, but more because it seems like there would eventually be a non-zero chance of an accidental opening. Imagine the air quality goes to shit and one of the astronauts losing their state of mind and heading for the door while thinking, "man, I really need to step outside to get some air." Or a strap getting caught in the handle in just the right highly-improbable way.

NASA never forgot their lesson about spacecraft doors from the Apollo 1 fire, and I don't blame them one bit. But as an armchair observer, the fact that the hatch didn't have _some_ kind of rudimentary protection system to keep it from being opened to the vacuum of space until that point, is highly interesting.

I mean, if the account of Wang is true, I have to imagine that he was only asking about the door with the same kind of idle fascination that I most definitely would. I could be wrong but as far as I know, I don't believe Chinese culture promotes the idea of killing your crewmates in front of the whole world as a less shameful act than a physics experiment that didn't work out as intended.

hutzlibu · 2 years ago
"I don't believe Chinese culture promotes the idea of killing your crewmates in front of the whole world as a less shameful act than a physics experiment that didn't work out as intended."

Rational chinese people for sure not. But he was not rational anymore, but out of his mind. Thinking how his family and the whole chinese people would despise him now because he failed as the first chinese in space. Nothing is sure here, but the way he asked, deeply disturbed the others. When you are desperate and cannot handle the pressure anymore - any way to end it, becomes a possibility you consider. A way out. Quite literally in this situation.

hutzlibu commented on What happens when an astronaut in orbit says he's not coming back?   arstechnica.com/space/202... · Posted by u/martey
_Algernon_ · 2 years ago
None of that is relevant to what I want to get out of an article titled "What happens when an astronaut in orbit says he’s not coming back?" If I wanted a bunch of random facts or life stories I'd use the random option on Wikipedia.
hutzlibu · 2 years ago
Random people are not flying with the Space Shuttle. And when people who do fly go nuts - then everything about this person is helpful to understand the "why" and how to prevent such a situation in the future. Of course NASA did that professionally already long ago - but now it is debated in the open. So some people deeply interested with the field, will want to play hobby psychoanalyst with the given facts. The more the better. You clearly don't want to and that is also OK, but maybe accept that some people like it like this. And just as a suggestion, you can nowdays get a AI to give you a short summary ...
hutzlibu commented on What happens when an astronaut in orbit says he's not coming back?   arstechnica.com/space/202... · Posted by u/martey
jstarfish · 2 years ago
The personal biography of Wang, for starters. I do not give a shit when he was born or where he went to school. I'm only mildly interested in what he worked on.

The issue is the headline. It posits a question, then jerks you around until you've spent long enough on the page to satisfy some engagement metric.

It's writing for television, where any yes/no question always happens to take exactly 30 minutes (and multiple commercial breaks) to answer, starting with the history of philosophy and reason itself.

It's scummy behavior, like timeshare sales or giving people free samples of spicy beef jerky and making them wait in line for water.

The title "The First Man to Refuse to Return from Space" would be more appropriate for an investigative article. Then you'd know what to expect. But they went the clickbait route, hence the irritation.

hutzlibu · 2 years ago
"The issue is the headline. It posits a question, then jerks you around until you've spent long enough on the page to satisfy some engagement metric."

But there was and is just no definite answer, except for drama. I found every bit interesting and relevant to be able to picture the situation.

"The title "The First Man to Refuse to Return from Space" would be more appropriate for an investigative article. "

And no, because it was way more severe than this: he said he won't come home and he said figurativly "oh, I can just open this airlock and then we all would die?" (where "unless you give in to my demands" was maybe intentionally implied - maybe not, he was not mentally stable)

So an actual clickbaity sounding headline, that would have actually be quite close to the truth, would be:

"First man in space, who threatened to kill everyone on board"

But Ars did not do this. Partly because they are not (so much) into the clickbait game, but partly because the facts are (intentionally by NASA) not that clear here. And the Author tried to gather as much facts as he could. So giving us, where he was born and went to school was no real answer to the title question - but it helped me getting a picture of the person in question, which is still alive, but who refused to comment. Because people have reasons for why they act like they do:

"When I turned on my own instrument, it didn't work," Wang said. "You can imagine my panic. I had spent five years preparing for this one experiment. Not only that, I was the first person of Chinese descent to fly on the Shuttle, and the Chinese community had taken a great deal of interest. You have to understand the Asian culture. You don't just represent yourself; you represent your family. The first thing you learn as a kid is to bring no shame to the family. So when I realized that my experiment had failed, I could imagine my father telling me, 'What's the matter with you? Can't you even do an experiment right?' I was really in a very desperate situation"

hutzlibu commented on What happens when an astronaut in orbit says he's not coming back?   arstechnica.com/space/202... · Posted by u/martey
pdonis · 2 years ago
> Which means that in a real emergency, astronauts maybe could then not open the door in time.

The lock was only installed while in orbit--where the hatch is not an emergency escape anyway.

hutzlibu · 2 years ago
Oh, then I saw problems, where they did not exist. Thanks for clarifying.

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