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hndamien commented on I ditched Spotify and set up my own music stack   leshicodes.github.io/blog... · Posted by u/starkparker
SoftTalker · 5 months ago
By that logic the most fair would be pay per play for every song, with some fraction to the artist. But subscribers really like the single payment for unlimited plays model.
hndamien · 5 months ago
It would just mean your total fixed subscription cost is apportioned across all of the artists you play in the month in proportion. It’s not an extremely difficult calculation.

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hndamien commented on I ditched Spotify and set up my own music stack   leshicodes.github.io/blog... · Posted by u/starkparker
benoau · 5 months ago
They on average pass approximately 70% on, but the record labels also eat heavily into that before the artists get their share.

I'm reminded of an effort a few years ago to legislate the creators getting 50% - which of course meant the "platforms" and the "labels" would collectively share only the other 50%. Which is presumably why the initiative failed.

> The three major labels - Sony, Universal and Warner Music - faced some of the toughest questioning of the inquiry, and were accused of a "lack of clarity" by MPs.

> They largely argued to maintain the status quo, saying any disruption could damage investment in new music, and resisted the idea that streaming was comparable to radio - where artists receive a 50/50 royalty split.

> "It is a narrow-margin business, so it wouldn't actually take that much to upset the so-called apple cart," said Apple Music's Elena Segal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-57838473

These days Spotify has hundreds of millions for Joe Rogan and podcast investments, and Apple reports a 75% profit margin on services, so I guess it is quite profitable for everyone except the actual artists.

hndamien · 5 months ago
The record company representing that one artist also does not get $7 of the $10.
hndamien commented on Geneva makes public transport temporarily free to combat pollution spike   reuters.com/sustainabilit... · Posted by u/kristjank
aaronmdjones · 6 months ago
We also tax those already.

EDIT: There is a fixed VAT charge of 5% on electricity, as well as a currently 16% levy on electricity to cover various environmental and social benefit schemes. Which is hilarious, as the UK is moving away from fossil fuels for its electrical generation mix, while taxing electricity consumption much more than it taxes gas (5% VAT and 5.5% levies). This punishes those using electricity for heating and incentivizes people to continue using gas at home. This is on top of the fact that currently, gas is much cheaper (in unit rate, per kWh) than electricity. It's like they can't make up their mind on what they want to accomplish. For fuel, the tax is currently just under £0.53/L with 20% VAT added on top of the total as well.

hndamien · 6 months ago
Tax them again!
hndamien commented on Unhappy Meals (2007)   michaelpollan.com/article... · Posted by u/pramodbiligiri
Spivak · 8 months ago
I will take the other side of that bet. I've joked for years about aspartame surely going to give me cancer and yet despite the not inconsiderable amount of research into it trying to find a smoking gun the results are at best vaguely suggestive, which is another way of saying there have still yet been no provable connection between aspartame and any heath problem. If you're a Bayesian thinker at this point your priors should be set on the far side of "it's for all practical purposes inert in the body."

But refined sugar, you'll be drowning in real documented health problems.

hndamien · 8 months ago
The problem with aspartame is your gut microbiome, not cancer. Sugar is probably better for you, but keep it to small amounts.
hndamien commented on Ask HN: Tired of all the AI, what other cool tech is out there?    · Posted by u/Mariefay
Mariefay · 8 months ago
Hahaha no I am not a bot, I just tend to read quietly more than actively participate!
hndamien · 8 months ago
I see no watermelon.
hndamien commented on Suno v4.5   suno.com/explore/... · Posted by u/platers
nwienert · 9 months ago
Fascinating. I find that song to be unlistenable and something about the thought of anyone enjoying it seems really wrong.
hndamien · 9 months ago
Well, that’s about as low effort as Suno gets, so I’m not sure you should expect to like it more than a laugh. But when you put effort into the songwriting and shaping you can produce legitimately good music. This is my third highest ranking streaming song and it actually got some airplay on US radio stations - https://music.apple.com/au/album/too-much-winning/1788045206...
hndamien commented on Suno v4.5   suno.com/explore/... · Posted by u/platers
TheAceOfHearts · 9 months ago
One of Suno's biggest weakness is their lyrics generation, and that you can't generate lyrics without also generating a song. I think it's better to use a different LLM to generate and iterate on lyrics, which you can then pass to Suno in order to generate a final song.

If anyone here has a subscription and they can spare the tokens, I think it would be fun if someone shared a song about Hacker News.

I'm hoping that in the future tools like Suno will allow you to produce / generate songs as projects which you can tweak in greater detail; basically a way of making music by "vibe coding". With 4.0 the annotation capabilities were still a bit limited, and the singer could end up mispronouncing things without any way to fix or specify the correct pronunciation. This blog post mentions that with 4.5 they enhanced prompt interpretations, but it doesn't actually go into any technical details nor does it provide clear examples to get a real sense of the changes.

hndamien · 9 months ago
This song was produced a long time ago from a verbatim hacker news comment, and got released on Spotify and Apple and became a favorite at home.

Your comment inspired me to upgrade it to 4.5 because it did have that AI tinny quality. https://suno.com/s/tbZlkBL7XeLVuuN0

It sounds better but has lost some magic.

Here is the original comment - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39997706

In that spirit, from the same “artist” here is your comment - https://suno.com/s/AumsIqrIovVhT0c9

And

https://suno.com/s/YGlpHptX6yXJVpHq

Not sure which I like more.

hndamien commented on Suno v4.5   suno.com/explore/... · Posted by u/platers
ignu · 9 months ago
AI art is like dreams. I'm amused by my own but never want to hear about anyone else's.
hndamien · 9 months ago
Your real poetry on the other hand, pretty good!
hndamien commented on Suno v4.5   suno.com/explore/... · Posted by u/platers
kelseyfrog · 9 months ago
The real potential of tools like Suno isn’t in cranking out radio-ready hits. It’s in creating music that doesn't have commercial incentives to exist. Case in point: Functional Music.

I started using it to generate songs that reinforce emotional regulation strategies -things like grounding, breathwork, staying present. Not instructional tracks, which would be unbearable, but actual songs with lyrics that reflect actual practice and skills.

It started as a way to help me decompress after therapy. I'd listen to a mini-album I made during the drive home. Eventually, I’d catch myself recalling a lyric in stressful moments elsewhere. That was the moment things clicked. The songs weren’t just a way for me to calm down on the way home, they were teaching me real emotional skills I could use in all parts of my life. I wasn’t consciously practicing mindfulness anymore; it was showing up on its own. Since then I’ve been iterating, writing lyrics that reflect emotional-cognitive skills, generating songs with them, and listening while I'm in the car. It's honestly changed my life in a subtle but deep way.

We already have work songs, lullabies, marching music, and religious chants - all music that serves a purpose besides existing to be listened to. Music that exists to teach us ways of interacting is a largely untapped idea.

This is the kind of functional application is what generative music is perfect for. Song can be so much more than listening to terminally romantic lyricists trying to speak to the lowest common denominator. They can teach us to be better versions of ourselves.

u/hndamien

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