I think that’s called the Epstein Files.
Used to think that Epstein was a Posturetalker but turns out he is a native Gametalker
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The Berne books Rao cites as explanations of Gametalk are solidly good entries in of themselves, although it's probably best to use an LLM to get search results of the best introductions to TA first to see if they've been surpassed.
Adhering to the predictable/ritualistic/comfortable nature of "Gametalk",
Here's one question I asked:
"How does Eric Berne's Gametalk as interpreted by Venkatesh Rao signal to the sociopaths that those who engage in them are losers worth talking to? Distinguish between "channels" that Eric has identified as well as new signals that Rao or others have discovered."
See the Scott Alexander review:
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-the-gervais-pri...
Liked this comment:
"If we could convince [any] Sociopath that we were all Losers, we might be able to entice them into spilling their secrets as 'Straighttalk'. (Arguably that's what this book is..)"
On one hand Rao doesn't say much about Gametalk (he basically defers to Eric Berne) which is the Loser's sociolect and should well be our default.
On the other, Rao much more optimistic than Orwell, who declared doublespeak the lingua franca?
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"Greatness cannot be planned" - K. Stanley
Technology, methods and people at the time are bound to have been different, even if only slightly so.
Throughout history, many things were thought of as wasteful and looked over, until some people serendipitously spent time and energy and found some diamond in the dirt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Stanley#:~:text=lead%2...
What would you say the %time that "research science managers" spend looking in/for the "dirt" should be? 100? 50? 20? 37?
gsf_emergency_7 commented on Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion · Posted by u/shannoncc
You feeling that way is the world telling you you’re doing it wrong.
It is more fun to treat them as coding buddies, usually using them one at a time a time, it is fair to race them at debugging a bug or spend waiting time looking at docs or something.
The real bottleneck is how much you can hold in your head simultaneously to be sure about quality as a moral subject.
Imagine 2 or more Taoist priests raised in different cultures each trying to get the others riled up while cooperating to solve a deep technical problem. How do they keep this game fun _and_ productive? Disregarding for the moment the tradeoffs---eg patience-impatience, learn-earn, purpose-technik &c--- that should replace morality-quality questions.
(Iirc there was a (nihilist) electric shock Zen meditation game that uses HRV, but the above framing may take that to another (positivist) level. Getting LLMs in the loop is one other kind of level)
Some call this the Glass-bead-game
gsf_emergency_7 commented on Why Stable Reality Requires λ² = λ and 1 academia.edu/145790753/On... · Posted by u/kristintynski
Title: A Structural Constraint That May Explain (Almost) Everything [pdf]
Submitter = author so it should be fine?
Please don't report me lol.. I'm tired of starting over and over again for reasons I don't really understand (tho I have a guess)
Mike is the archetypal nihilist (Sociopath or Loser), the other two would potentially be engaging in a Clueless interaction if Mike wasn't there, according to the Scott/Rao theory of jokes, you need 3 for a Loser joke.
The preceding banter seems to be more of a Loser Gametalk: no social status is at stake; it's irrelevant to their white-collar role. Mike's Straighttalk intervention is typical of a sociopath; the wall breaking joke is that these Losers don't know what his real job is. If they did, the pointless but playful debate would have died a violent death-- because it'd get too real
If these were Clueless middle managers debating their value to their company, it might even be out of character for Mike to notice them..