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gpm commented on The first sodium-ion battery EV is a winter range monster   insideevs.com/news/786509... · Posted by u/andrewjneumann
Animats · 5 hours ago
It's another battery that you can't buy right now.

"Chinese battery giant CATL and automaker Changan Automobile are preparing to put the world’s first passenger car powered by sodium-ion batteries on public roads by mid-2026."

CATL is more credible than Donut, but both are making forward-looking statements.

gpm · 4 hours ago
Not all forwarding look statements are the same...

CATL is "we're going to mass produce this specific well known technology" and while there's some question as to precise numbers for their implementation of it they aren't claiming anything surprising. A worst they're somewhat over optimistic and fail to be a commercial success. At best they're slightly under optimistic and are slightly more successful than anticipated. We can be confident they aren't flat out lying (though they may be exaggerating) because the claim is so mundane.

Donut is "we're going to produce a technology capable of achieving targets that haven't even been demonstrated in a (public) lab. We won't tell you what specific technology. We're going to put this miracle battery in motorcycles, because we can". At worst they're flat out lying to scam investors - but if they're not lying, even if they're over optimistic, they've made a significant advance in the state of the art that will eventually (once it's not just put in motorcycles) have widespread repercussions.

gpm commented on The first sodium-ion battery EV is a winter range monster   insideevs.com/news/786509... · Posted by u/andrewjneumann
bilsbie · 10 hours ago
Dumb question but I’ve always wondered if we could make a giant reusable “hand warmer” type chemistry around the battery and use that to get it going in cold environments.

Looking into it more. Maybe something like supersaturated solution of sodium acetate (plus water) in a sealed pouch with a metal disc. Bending the disc triggers crystallization, releasing stored heat (around 130–140°F for 20–60 minutes). Boil them to reset.

So you could boil and reset them during charging and click them off if needed in cold weather.

gpm · 5 hours ago
I don't think it's a dumb question at all. Storing thermal energy separately from electrical energy would make plenty of sense if we could store the thermal energy better (cheaper, lighter) than the electrical energy.

A quick search suggests that sodium acetate used like this stores 230kj/kg (i.e. 64 Wh/kg in the units used for batteries) [1] which is significantly worse than the sodium ion batteries being discussed. Same order of magnitude though, so maybe there's a better material that would make it work.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13594...

gpm commented on The first sodium-ion battery EV is a winter range monster   insideevs.com/news/786509... · Posted by u/andrewjneumann
Animats · 9 hours ago
Remember those Donut/Verge solid state batteries, which were supposed to ship in Q1 2026? That just slipped to the end of 2026 or 2027.[1] Supposedly they're delayed by needing "certification" for their motorcycle.

(The motorcycle is real, and has been out for years. This is just a battery upgrade.)

[1] https://insideevs.com/news/786388/verge-motorcycles-donut-la...

gpm · 5 hours ago
Is there some particular relevance to this article?

There's a lot of reasons to think that that battery might be a scam... unlike most batteries, including sodium ion ones... If it's not a scam it will certainly upset the battery market eventually.

gpm commented on The first sodium-ion battery EV is a winter range monster   insideevs.com/news/786509... · Posted by u/andrewjneumann
jfengel · 12 hours ago
That implies that air resistance is the overwhelming contributor at high speeds. Is that the case?
gpm · 12 hours ago
It's the majority, but overwhelming or not surprisingly appears to depend on car model, at least per some calculations someone on reddit ran [1].

I'd add though that rolling resistance tends to be higher, on average, in winter too. When there's often a bit of snow on the roads... Less so on high speed highways admittedly.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/l2cq6b/comment/...

gpm commented on The first sodium-ion battery EV is a winter range monster   insideevs.com/news/786509... · Posted by u/andrewjneumann
smiley1437 · 12 hours ago
Out the gate, sodium ion advantages are so significant that unless there is some surprise show-stopper it will likely become the dominant energy storage medium.

Crustal abundance up to 1000x that of lithium - pretty much every nation has effectively unlimited supply, it's no longer a barrier or a geographically limited resource like lithium.

No significant damage going down to 0V, can even be stored at 0V - much safer than lithium which gets excitable once out of its prefered voltage range.

Cold weather performance down to -30C - northern latitude users don't have as much range anxiety in the winter.

Basically, the only problem I see is that companies that have made significant long-term investments in lithium could take a big hit. Countries that banked on their lithium reserves as a key future resource for will have to adjust their strategy.

Lithium batteries will likely still have a place in the high performance realm but but for the majority of run-of-the-mill applications - everything from customer electronics to EVs to offgrid storage - it's hard to see how sodium-ion wouldn't quickly replace it.

gpm · 12 hours ago
Energy density matters a lot for many applications, including customer electroncs and EVs. Sodium ion is at a fundamental disadvantage (sodium is heavier than lithium).

I don't doubt that sodium ion has a place... but whether it takes over as the dominant battery type for portable applications strikes me as very dependent on the future of lithium extraction. It seems like a place that has a lot of room to grow more efficient and thus more competitive on cost.

gpm commented on The first sodium-ion battery EV is a winter range monster   insideevs.com/news/786509... · Posted by u/andrewjneumann
lightedman · 13 hours ago
I suspect we will be finding this technology being used a fair bit in aerospace tech like satellites to compliment the onboard solar, given the low-temp operational capability.
gpm · 13 hours ago
Do satellite batteries run cold?

Given the difficulty of radiating heat away I would have expected the opposite.

Especially considering the incentive to send up as little battery as possible, and the very predictable day/night cycle leading to the ability to precisely predict how small a battery you can get away with...

gpm commented on Speed up responses with fast mode   code.claude.com/docs/en/f... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
zhyder · a day ago
So 2.5x the speed at 6x the price [1].

Quite a premium for speed. Especially when Gemini 3 Pro is 1.8x the tokens/sec speed (of regular-speed Opus 4.6) at 0.45x the price [2]. Though it's worse at coding, and Gemini CLI doesn't have the agentic strength of Claude Code, yet.

[1] - https://x.com/claudeai/status/2020207322124132504 [2] - https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models

gpm · a day ago
6x price/token, so 15x price/second, and only at the API pricing level, not the far cheaper (per token) subscription pricing.

Definitely an interesting way to encourage whales to spend a lot of money quickly.

gpm commented on Where did all the starships go?   datawrapper.de/blog/scien... · Posted by u/speckx
MichaelZuo · a day ago
A trip there to do… what?

There likely won’t be any planet better than the very low bar of Mars for human habitation, in fact maybe even worse due to binary perturbations.

gpm · a day ago
Why do people row across the ocean?

If humanity survives to a high enough tech level, someone will do it just because they can...

gpm commented on Where did all the starships go?   datawrapper.de/blog/scien... · Posted by u/speckx
nine_k · a day ago
Interstellar space contains neutral hydrogen atoms. Hitting a spaceship, they would produce electromagnetic radiation. When the collision speed goes past about 0.25c, the radiation becomes hard gamma rays which are dangerous to living things, and cannot be efficiently shielded against.

At this speed, the time dilation is slightly above 3%, so you're still not going to reach even Alpha Centauri in one human lifetime, or maybe you barely can.

gpm · a day ago
Alpha Centauri is only 4.2 light years away. 0.25c is definitely enough to reach it. You could even do a round trip in only your adult years.
gpm commented on The Waymo World Model   waymo.com/blog/2026/02/th... · Posted by u/xnx
qeternity · 2 days ago
Have there been any reported instances of Waymo cars being stolen?

Disabled and then loaded into a lead-lined trailer or something.

I imagine the IP running locally on the cars is worth billions.

gpm · 2 days ago
I doubt Waymo would publicly talk about this if it did happen.

I also doubt the IP is worth that much. Most of the secret sauce to starting a competitor probably isn't an end model tuned for a specific configuration of a car but the ability to produce end models, which wouldn't be stealable from the car.

u/gpm

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