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fincycaden commented on Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah   nbcnews.com/news/us-news/... · Posted by u/david927
AfterHIA · 2 days ago
Adult Utah Valley University student here. CS-Humanities dual major. My two cents.

I feel sick to my stomach. Charlie was a pundit but he didn't deserve this. Not at our university. I've always felt in danger at UVU as the whole complex makes Michel Foucault look like a Hebraic prophet. I wasn't on campus at the time- I'm currently attending a guest class at BYU across town.

I'm going to drop out of university. There's no point anymore. The society I wanted to live in as a child has started to eat itself. What makes me sick is that before the announcement my attitude was very, "let's make cynical jokes; he'll most likely be ok..." this all happened 15 minutes away from my house. I'm afraid of violence toward my left-leaning family. I'm currently battling chronic illness (lungs, throat, stomach. Don't smoke!) and I can't take this stress anymore. I love you uncle Douglas Engelbart; I wanted to take on the work Alan Kay did in his life. I wanted to make tools to expand human intellect. I wanted to help make good on the Licklider dream. Now my dream is manipulate a doctor into giving me a diagnosis so I can enter into palliative care and take Methadone until I die.

fincycaden · a day ago
I'd just like to say that I feel you and understand you. I'm a university student as well, feeling a similar way. I'm in Electrical Engineering, and I feel disillusioned with the way society is degenerating. Best of luck, friend. There still are good people out there. We may not be able to cure or fix society or even stop it from degenerating, but you can always build a life with loved ones and create your own world <3
fincycaden commented on Dreams of improving the human race are no longer science fiction   economist.com/briefing/20... · Posted by u/rbanffy
01HNNWZ0MV43FF · 3 months ago
Paraphrasing Slate Star Codex from memory: I don't want it because then everyone will be pressured to take the most invasive "improvements" they can get, or risk being outcompeted, and then after the whale fall we'll still be miserable, but also with brain bugs.
fincycaden · 3 months ago
Interestingly this is Ted Kaczysnki's argument for what will inevitably happen with genetic engineering of humans
fincycaden commented on Controversial pesticide research all but vanished from a major conference   usrtk.org/bees-neonics/en... · Posted by u/stareatgoats
3lit3krew · a year ago
Obviously nobody can trust The Science any more, too much big money involved. The best you can do is try to keep up with bro-science, which is often decades ahead of The Science, and avoid any new chemicals, food additives, drugs or therapies for several decades until we learn if they're really, actually safe or not by observing what happens to the guinea pigs called the general public. At this point we've all seen enough evidence to have destroyed either some, or all trust in The Science, anybody left using Science Juice or Science Gas or Science Pills either doesn't care, or wouldn't even if they knew.
fincycaden · a year ago
Absolutely. I began thinking this way when I was the guinea pig, and suffered a permanent life-alerting effect from a medication, which was anecdotally reported despite there being no official correlation or link by the "science"
fincycaden commented on Senate passes TikTok ban bill, sending it to President Biden's desk   theverge.com/2024/4/23/24... · Posted by u/LopRabbit
paulcole · a year ago
It's hard to tell whether you're being intentionally obtuse or are just naturally pedantic, but look at the headline in every news article (including this one on HN).

No reasonable person in the US knows this as anything but The TikTok Bill.

fincycaden · a year ago
That's the fault of the media, not the government.
fincycaden commented on Jonathan Haidt blames teenage depression, anxiety on smartphones, social media   newyorker.com/news/the-ne... · Posted by u/fortran77
beepbooptheory · a year ago
If the economy is so strong, why does the media need to resort to such desperate measures for attention? Like, shouldn't they also be reaping profits and such from the healthy economy, and as such not have to be forced into this grubby practice of manufacturing dissatisfaction?
fincycaden · a year ago
What a strange argument. No matter the economical situation, companies will still want to maximize profits. In the case of the media, drawing the most attention, which results in depressing doomsaying, regardless of reality
fincycaden commented on Why everything is becoming a game   gurwinder.blog/p/why-ever... · Posted by u/jger15
api · a year ago
But the power process is just a game, or perhaps more accurately a built in biological addiction to games that caused us to pass on our genes in the past. Why is it truly metaphysically better than, say, racking up Reddit karma?

What I really think is that most humans have never had meaning. They’ve just been too busy surviving to stop and think about it. When societies get rich enough to afford time to think and universal literacy to discuss then we start noticing that life is “meaningless” and discussing the metaphysical emptiness that was always there below the surface.

Huxley’s brave new world is accurate but is neither brave nor new.

You always get a faction that thinks the absence of such discourse in the past meant we had meaning back then. They’re wrong.

Going back in time to when we were still deeply embedded in the “power process” or whatever you call it is no different from drowning yourself in TikTok or MMORPGs. It’s just another way to stop thinking about big deep questions that in fact have never been solved.

We do not truly know what we are, where we came from, if we truly have any “purpose” beyond just catalyzing the dissipation of energy, whether consciousness ends at death or has some eternal component, etc. We can have various religious and spiritual faiths but these do not come with proof. The honest ones tell you that up front.

Becoming too busy to care, whether in the old traditional way or some new way, does not change this.

fincycaden · a year ago
"But the power process is just a game, or perhaps more accurately a built in biological addiction to games that caused us to pass on our genes in the past. Why is it truly metaphysically better than, say, racking up Reddit karma?" Because it gives us psychological fulfilment. We are conditioned through millions of years of evolution to find it psychologically fulfilling. That's the point. His argument is that living a life that may be less physically secure, but psychologically fulfilling is a better life to live. That's why it's better.
fincycaden commented on Why everything is becoming a game   gurwinder.blog/p/why-ever... · Posted by u/jger15
api · a year ago
I read Kaczynski long ago and saw a huge hole immediately.

So surrogate activities replace the authentic struggle for survival. I can get that. But why is the struggle for survival better? Isn’t it just another game?

Kaczynski like many other romantics rails against the system, but isn’t nature just another system? It’s an older one that we didn’t design, but didn’t we learn in the end that the matrix was inside an even older matrix which was inside an even older one…?

What would it even mean to escape the “system?” How can you do that except death? If you are breathing you are playing some kind of game.

Instead the question is: can we exercise some choice over what systems we give our energy to and can we influence these systems? I do think we give our energy to a lot of dumb pointless or even evil systems today, so how do we turn our attention elsewhere?

For the natural system of subsistence hunting and gathering or farming the answers to these questions are “no” (little choice, play or die) and “no” (the system is billions of years old and isn’t even ours). We have more choice today in our complicated mesh of systems, or at least we have the potential of choice.

This is ultimately a big part of why I am not a primitivist, reactionary, or traditionalist. Sure what we have sucks sometimes. Are we sure it was better back then? Or was it just different? I always want to ask “trads” of various types if they are sure they would be happy in the traditional state they imagine.

Maybe the people who railed against nature and sought to command it with science to escape its constraints were malcontents not entirely different from Kaczynski in their emotional and personality structure. Send Ted back to 1400 and you might have an enlightenment radical materialist.

fincycaden · a year ago
"But why is the struggle for survival better? Isn’t it just another game?" The reason why the struggle for survival is better is because that is what we are psychologically predisposed to be fulfilled by. Millions of years of evolution have created reward pathways and we get deep fulfillment from these goals, and community. Not all games are the same when it comes to how it affects us psychologically.
fincycaden commented on Why everything is becoming a game   gurwinder.blog/p/why-ever... · Posted by u/jger15
j_bum · a year ago
I agree. I stopped at the Kaczynski worship.

I don’t understand why people are so fascinated with talking about the ideals of insane serial killers.

There are plenty of other highly intelligent individuals with the same ideologies to discuss. Why glorify a murderer?

fincycaden · a year ago
The fact that he is a murderer is completely irrelevant to the discussion, nor was he insane. A genius mathematician, actually
fincycaden commented on Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater success in federal court   psypost.org/physically-at... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
Rinzler89 · a year ago
It's not about marrying more attractive spouses for breeding better looking offspring, but what a lot of these studies miss is that wealthy people who are genetically disadvantaged have the funds the invest in their appearance to become better looking: best timely medical care, fixing teeth, becoming taller, correcting posture, hair implants, plastic surgery and skin care, hiring professional trainers and nutritionists, living in nice, quiet, green areas to reduce stress and sleep better, and other potential quackery rich people have access too like blood transfusions.

Just look at Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk before and after they became wealthy, they're better looking despite being 10-20 years older.

Basically, higher IQ can help you build wealth, and higher wealth can help you become better looking, but high IQ is not directly responsible for better looks.

fincycaden · a year ago
I think another aspect is that many things that are within someone's control that positively affect attractiveness require patience and long-term thinking. Working out, brushing teeth regularly, eating healthy, etc, are not enjoyable in the short-term, and people with higher IQ / more successful tend to be able to better control their impulses and have longer-term vision.

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