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extr commented on The AI Job Title Decoder Ring   dbreunig.com/2025/08/21/a... · Posted by u/dbreunig
potatolicious · 7 days ago
> "When you consider that classical engineers are responsible for the correctness of their work"

Woah hang on, I think this betrays a severe misunderstanding of what engineers do.

FWIW I was trained as a classical engineer (mechanical), but pretty much just write code these days. But I did have a past life as a not-SWE.

Most classical engineering fields deal with probabilistic system components all of the time. In fact I'd go as far as to say that inability to deal with probabilistic components is disqualifying from many engineering endeavors.

Process engineers for example have to account for human error rates. On a given production line with humans in a loop, the operators will sometimes screw up. Designing systems to detect these errors (which are highly probabilistic!), mitigate them, and reduce the occurrence rates of such errors is a huge part of the job.

Likewise even for regular mechanical engineers, there are probabilistic variances in manufacturing tolerances. Your specs are always given with confidence intervals (this metal sheet is 1mm thick +- 0.05mm) because of this. All of the designs you work on specifically account for this (hence safety margins!). The ways in which these probabilities combine and interact is a serious field of study.

Software engineering is unlike traditional engineering disciplines in that for most of its lifetime it's had the luxury of purely deterministic expectations. This is not true in nearly every other type of engineering.

If anything the advent of ML has introduced this element to software, and the ability to actually work with probabilistic outcomes is what separates those who are serious about this stuff vs. demoware hot air blowers.

extr · 7 days ago
Nicely said, I'm going to borrow some language here. I've talked a little to my coworkers about how it's possible the future of SWE looks more like "build a complex system with AI and test it to death to make sure it fits inside the performance envelope you require".
extr commented on The AI Job Title Decoder Ring   dbreunig.com/2025/08/21/a... · Posted by u/dbreunig
andrew_lettuce · 7 days ago
We all know the AI part is largely meaningless because of the hype and nonsense, but what defines you as an engineer? When you consider that classical engineers are responsible for the correctness of their work, combining it with AI seems like a joke
extr · 7 days ago
Hard to tell what you're even trying to say here. I am obviously responsible for the correctness of my work. "AI Engineer" does not generally mean "AI-Assisted Engineer", thought that was clear from my post.
extr commented on The AI Job Title Decoder Ring   dbreunig.com/2025/08/21/a... · Posted by u/dbreunig
apwell23 · 7 days ago
> I pay a lot of attention to what other people in the industry are doing, new model releases, and how others are building things,

what do you think of recent MIT news that 95% gen ai projects don't do anything valuable at all ?

extr · 7 days ago
Sounds kind of aggressive but probably the number is up there.
extr commented on The AI Job Title Decoder Ring   dbreunig.com/2025/08/21/a... · Posted by u/dbreunig
extr · 7 days ago
Seems about right. My official title at work is "AI Engineer". What does that mean exactly?

- I'm not a researcher and not fine tuning or deploying models on GPUs

- I have a math/traditional ML background, but my explanation of how transformers, tokenizers, etc work would be hand-wavy at best.

- I'm a "regular engineer" in the sense I'm following many of the standard SWE/SDLC practices in my org.

- I'm exclusively focused on building AI features for our product, I wear a PM hat too.

- I'm pretty tuned in to the latest model releases and capabilities of frontier models, and consider being able to articulate that information part of my job.

- I also use AI heavily to produce code, which is helpfully a pretty good way to get a sense for model capabilities.

Do I deserve a special job title...maybe? I think there's definitely an argument that "AI Engineering" really isn't a special thing, and considering how much of my day to day is pure integration work with the actual product, I can see that. OTOH, part of my job and my value at work is very product based. I pay a lot of attention to what other people in the industry are doing, new model releases, and how others are building things, since it's such a new area and there's no "standard playbook" yet for many things.

I actually quite enjoy it since there's a ton of opportunity to be creative. When AI first started becoming big I thought about doing the other direction - leveraging my math/ML background to get deeper into GPUs and MLOps/research-lite kind of work. Instead I went in a more producty direction, which I don't regret yet.

extr commented on Claudia – Desktop companion for Claude code   claudiacode.com/... · Posted by u/zerealshadowban
dostick · 10 days ago
The desktop companion is not the problem that needs to be solved. It seems that every developer who successfully used CC and go on to create some tool for it is doing it for the wrong reasons or because they have to do just something.

CC development is not just development, not all types of development. it’s frontend JS based , and it’s backend development. Only those scenarios work.

Try creating native desktop or mobile app and it’s like a swamp of trial and error.

You have to learn by trial and error what documentation sets and instructions you have to provide at which moment and context and balance at with token cost.. it’s a multi dimensional problem for which there are no recipes that work.

On top of that your direct instructions to not use particular patterns or approaches gets forgotten and ignored y CC with later “you’re right, I should have…”. I am starting to think it’s not solvable by the user by providing docs, examples and instructions. That Claude must have native development baked in to the same level as they baked in the frontend and backend.

What I am getting to is - make a tool to manage those doc sets and contexts and instructions and allow to share those sets between users globally as recipes.

extr · 10 days ago
It's already a solved problem. Just use GPT-5-Thinking (or Pro) to create a highly detailed spec to execute against. You can also download the entire docs/source code for whatever libraries you're using and tell the AI to reference/search it as needed. Works great.
extr commented on GPT-5   openai.com/gpt-5/... · Posted by u/rd
BoorishBears · 21 days ago
This feels revisionist: no one used it because it wasn't as good.
extr · 20 days ago
O3 is fantastic at coding tasks, until today it was smartest model in existence. But it works only in few shot conversational scenarios, it's not good at agentic harnesses.
extr commented on Cursor CLI   cursor.com/cli... · Posted by u/gonzalovargas
byronic · 20 days ago
I'm having trouble finding a use for this outside of virtualized unused environments. Why not instead give me a virtual machine that runs this in a confined storage space?

I would _never_ give an LLM access to any disk I own or control if it had anything more than read permissions

extr · 20 days ago
Why not? Have you ever actually used these things? The risk is incredibly low. I run claude code with zero permissions every day for hours. Never a problem.
extr commented on AI in Search is driving more queries and higher quality clicks   blog.google/products/sear... · Posted by u/thm
thewebguyd · 22 days ago
> The only people "losing out" here are people running SEO-spammish websites that themselves (at this point) are basically hosting webpages containing LLM-generated answers for me to find.

Agreed. The web will be better off for everyone if these sites die out. Google is what brought these into existence in the first place, so I find it funny Google is now going to be one of the ones helping to kill them. Almost like they accidentally realized SEO got out of control so they have to fix their mistake.

extr · 22 days ago
At one point these SEO pages were in fact providing a real service, and you could view them as a sort of "manual", prototypical, distributed form of AI. Millions of people trying to understand what information was valuable and host webpages to satisfy the demand for that info, and get rewarded for doing so. It obviously went too far, but at one point, it did make sense to allow these websites to proliferate. I know without AI, I probably just would have clicked on the first link that said "types of wrenches" and read a little bit. I probably would have gotten my answer, it just wouldn't have been quite as laser-targeted to my exact question.
extr commented on AI in Search is driving more queries and higher quality clicks   blog.google/products/sear... · Posted by u/thm
amarcheschi · 22 days ago
If I search "why is rum healthy", ai overview tells this, which is... Laughable: While not a health drink, moderate consumption of rum may offer some potential benefits, primarily due to its antioxidant content and potential to improve circulation and reduce stress. Darker rums, in particular, contain higher levels of antioxidants from the aging process in wooden barrels, which can help neutralize free radicals. Additionally, rum may have a relaxing effect and can be a social lubricant, potentially reducing stress and promoting relaxation when consumed in moderation.
extr · 22 days ago
Why is that laughable? Rum isn't a health drink, but if you were looking for information to support the case that it has some health benefits (which is literally the search term)...seems like a reasonable answer. What did you expect? A moralistic essay on how alcohol is bad?
extr commented on AI in Search is driving more queries and higher quality clicks   blog.google/products/sear... · Posted by u/thm
extr · 22 days ago
I can believe this. A lot of my google search usage now is something like:

> "what is the type of wrench called for getting up into tight spaces"

> AI search gives me an overview of wrench types (I was looking for "basin wrench")

> new search "basin wrench amazon"

> new search "basin wrench lowes"

> maps.google.com "lowes"

Notably, the information I was looking for was general knowledge. The only people "losing out" here are people running SEO-spammish websites that themselves (at this point) are basically hosting LLM-generated answers for me to find. These websites don't really need to exist now. I'm happy to funnel 100% of my traffic to websites that are representing real companies offering real services/info (ship me a wrench, sell me a wrench, show me a video on how to use the wrench, etc).

u/extr

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