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potatolicious commented on Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale   maggieappleton.com/gastow... · Posted by u/pavel_lishin
hyperpape · 17 days ago
> If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment:

So, Steve has the big scary "YOU WILL DIE" statements in there, but he also has this:

> I went ahead and built what’s next. First I predicted it, back in March, in Revenge of the Junior Developer. I predicted someone would lash the Claude Code camels together into chariots, and that is exactly what I’ve done with Gas Town. I’ve tamed them to where you can use 20–30 at once, productively, on a sustained basis.

"What's next"? Not an experiment. A prediction about how we'll work. The word "productively"? "Productively" is not just "a big fun experiment." "Productively" is what you say when you've got something people should use.

Even when he's giving the warnings, he says things like "If you have any doubt whatsoever, then you can’t use it" implying that it's ready for the right sort of person to use, or "Working effectively in Gas Town involves committing to vibe coding.", implying that working effectively with it is possible.

Every day, I go on Hacker News, and see the responses to a post where someone has an inconsistent message in their blog post like this.

If you say two different and contradictory things, and do not very explicitly resolve them, and say which one is the final answer, you will get blamed for both things you said, and you will not be entitled to complain about it, because you did it to yourself.

potatolicious · 17 days ago
> "If you say two different and contradictory things, and do not very explicitly resolve them, and say which one is the final answer, you will get blamed for both things you said, and you will not be entitled to complain about it, because you did it to yourself."

If I can be a bit bold and observe that this tic is also a very old rhetorical trick you see in our industry. Call it Schrodinger's Modest Proposal if you will.

In it someone writes something provocative, but casts it as both a joke and deadly serious at various points. Depending on how the audience reacts they can then double down on it being all-in-good-jest or yes-absolutely-totally. People who enjoy the author will explain the nonsensical tension as "nuance".

You see it in rationalist writing all the time. It's a tiresome rhetorical "trick" that doesn't fool anyone any more.

potatolicious commented on Valve is running Apple's playbook in reverse   garbagecollected.dev/p/va... · Posted by u/ee64a4a
potatolicious · 2 months ago
Are they actually running the Apple playbook in reverse? It seems to me that they're actually running Apple's playbook pretty squarely, just in another domain.

First-gen product that seemed to not know where it's going? Check.

Continued quiet iteration behind closed doors despite first-gen being a flop? Check.

Sticking with the product line over many years, where most other companies would have written off and thrown in the towel? Check.

Multi-pronged GTM strategy where other products prove out key bits of next product? Check. (see: SteamOS and Proton setting the stage for Steam Deck, which in turn sets the stage for Steam Machine 2)

Deep software-hardware integration in ways that are highly salient to users? Check (see: foviated streaming for Steam Frame, Steam Deck "just works")

potatolicious commented on Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free   riviantrackr.com/news/riv... · Posted by u/doctoboggan
bjord · 2 months ago
is everyone designing their own silicon getting so much additional them-specific utility out of it that it's actually worth it?
potatolicious · 2 months ago
I share your skepticism. This feels like an attempt to tap the trainloads of money piling into "AI", for a company that is in pretty desperate need of more cash to stay alive.

In a vacuum there are potentially some advantages to doing your own silicon, especially if your goal is to sell the platform to other automakers as an OEM.

But custom silicon is pricey as hell (if you're doing anything non-trivial, at least), and the payoffs have a long lead time. For a company that's bleeding cash aggressively, with a short runway, to engage in this seems iffy. This sort of move makes a lot more sense if Rivian was an established maker that's cash-flow positive and is looking to cement their long-term lead with free cash flow. Buuuuut they aren't that.

potatolicious commented on Trying out Gemini 3 Pro with audio transcription and a new pelican benchmark   simonwillison.net/2025/No... · Posted by u/nabla9
simonw · 3 months ago
The audio transcript exercise here is particularly interesting from a journalism perspective.

Summarizing a 3.5 hour council meeting is something of a holy grail of AI-assisted reporting. There are a LOT of meetings like that, and newspapers (especially smaller ones) can no longer afford to have a human reporter sit through them all.

I tried this prompt (against audio from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgJ7x7R6gy0):

  Output a Markdown transcript of this meeting. Include speaker
  names and timestamps. Start with an outline of the key
  meeting sections, each with a title and summary and timestamp
  and list of participating names. Note in bold if anyone
  raised their voices, interrupted each other or had
  disagreements. Then follow with the full transcript.
Here's the result: https://gist.github.com/simonw/0b7bc23adb6698f376aebfd700943...

I'm not sure quite how to grade it here, especially since I haven't sat through the whole 3.5 hour meeting video myself.

It appears to have captured the gist of the meeting very well, but the fact that the transcript isn't close to an exact match to what was said - and the timestamps are incorrect - means it's very hard to trust the output. Could it have hallucinated things that didn't happen? Those can at least be spotted by digging into the video (or the YouTube transcript) to check that they occurred... but what about if there was a key point that Gemini 3 omitted entirely?

potatolicious · 3 months ago
You really want to break a task like this down to constituent parts - especially because in this case the "end to end" way of doing it (i.e., raw audio to summary) doesn't actually get you anything.

IMO the right way to do this is to feed the audio into a transcription model, specifically one that supports diarization (separation of multiple speakers). This will give you a high quality raw transcript that is pretty much exactly what was actually said.

It would be rough in places (i.e., Speaker 1, Speaker 2, etc. rather than actual speaker names)

Then you want to post-process with a LLM to re-annotate the transcript and clean it up (e.g., replace "Speaker 1" with "Mayor Bob"), and query against it.

I see another post here complaining that direct-to-LLM beats a transcription model like Whisper - I would challenge that. Any modern ASR model will do a very, very good job with 95%+ accuracy.

potatolicious commented on Steam Frame   store.steampowered.com/sa... · Posted by u/Philpax
krzyk · 3 months ago
2k X 2k doesn't sound low res it is like full HD, but with twice vertical. My monitor is 1080p.

Never tried VR set, so I don't know if that translates similarly.

potatolicious · 3 months ago
Your 2K monitor occupies something like a 20-degree field of view from a normal sitting position/distance. The 2K resolution in a VR headset covers the entire field of view.

So effectively your 1080p monitor has ~6x the pixel density of the VR headset.

potatolicious commented on Steam Frame   store.steampowered.com/sa... · Posted by u/Philpax
Fernicia · 3 months ago
Couldn't you get around that by having a "zoom" feature on a very large but distant monitor?
potatolicious · 3 months ago
Yes but that can create major motion sickness issues - motion that does not correspond top the user's actual physical movements create a dissonance that is expressed as motion sickness for a large portion of the population.

This is the main reason many VR games don't let you just walk around and opt for teleportation-based movement systems - your avatar moving while your body doesn't can be quite physically uncomfortable.

There are ways of minimizing this - for example some VR games give you "tunnel vision" by blacking out peripheral vision while the movement is happening. But overall there's a lot of ergo considerations here and no perfect solution. The equivalent for a virtual desktop might be to limit the size of the window while the user is zooming/panning.

potatolicious commented on Steam Frame   store.steampowered.com/sa... · Posted by u/Philpax
giobox · 3 months ago
Even the vision pro at 35ppd simply isn't close to the PPD you can get from a good desktop monitor (we can calculate PPD for desktop monitors too, using size and viewing distance).

Apple's "retina" HiDPI monitors typically have PPD well beyond 35 at ordinary viewing distances, even a 1080p 24 inch monitor on your desk can exceed this.

For me personally, 35ppd feels about the minimum I would accept for emulating a monitor for text work in a VR headset, but it's still not good enough for me to even begin thinking about using it to replace any of my monitors.

> https://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensityCalculator.html

potatolicious · 3 months ago
Oh yeah for sure. Most people seem to accept that 35ppd is "good enough" but not actually at-par with a high quality high-dpi monitor.

I agree with you - I would personally consider 35ppd to be the floor for usability for this purpose. It's good in a pinch (need a nice workstation setup in a hotel room?) but I would not currently consider any extant hardware as full-time replacements for a good monitor.

potatolicious commented on Steam Frame   store.steampowered.com/sa... · Posted by u/Philpax
xeonmc · 3 months ago
> Roughly equivalent resolution to Quest 3 and less than Vision Pro. This won't be suitable as a monitor replacement for general desktop use. But the price is hopefully low.

Question, what is the criteria for deciding this to be the case? Could you not just move your face closer to the virtual screen to see finer details?

potatolicious · 3 months ago
There's no precise criteria but the usual measure is ppd (pixels per degree) and it needs to be high enough such that detailed content (such as text) displayed at a reasonable size is clearly legible without eye strain.

> "Could you not just move your face closer to the virtual screen to see finer details?"

Sure, but then you have the problem of, say, using an IMAX screen as your computer monitor. The level of head motion required to consume screen content (i.e., a ton of large head movements) would make the device very uncomfortable quite quickly.

The Vision Pro has about ~35ppd and generally people seems to think it hits the bar for monitor replacement. Meta Quest 3 has ~25ppd and generally people seem to think it does not. The Steam Frame is specs-wise much closer to Quest 3 than Vision Pro.

There are some software things you can do to increase legibility of details like text, but ultimately you do need physical pixels.

potatolicious commented on Steam Frame   store.steampowered.com/sa... · Posted by u/Philpax
stetrain · 3 months ago
Norm from Tested said the same in his video.

https://youtu.be/b7q2CS8HDHU

potatolicious · 3 months ago
The Verge reports similarly - can't tell foveated streaming. Seems like Valve really cracked the code with this one.
potatolicious commented on EVs are depreciating faster than gas-powered cars   restofworld.org/2025/ev-d... · Posted by u/belter
PunchyHamster · 4 months ago
> The last part of OP's statement is the key. In a field that's rapidly advancing technologically, used prices are depressed because the new product is that much better than the used product.

And 2 years old EV is not twice as bad as current one

> For example there's another post later in this thread that points out that the Nissan Leaf has been the same price forever - except the current-gen Leaf has literally double the range of the last one. Effects like this depress used prices.

The previous gen is 8 years old. It took 8 years to "double" the quality, not 2

potatolicious · 4 months ago
Listen, I'm literally just describing basic market dynamics here - my post is not intended as an endorsement of plainly observable phenomena.

The depreciation/utility curve has always been aggressive no matter what product you're buying. Is a 2 year-old ICE car twice as bad as a new one? Is a 2 year-old TV? Clearly not, yet they are all worth that in the open market.

For EVs the depreciation curve is especially aggressive because of perceived advancements. Are the advancements worth buying new? I dunno! You tell me - but this is clearly being reflected in the market.

From a strict utilitarian standpoint, optimizing your depreciation/utility function should mean you're buying almost every single thing used. But yet lots of people don't do that. Humans are empirically not very good utilitarians!

u/potatolicious

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