This is really well done. Nice job.
Thanks, I appreciate you feedback.
Readit Newsevtaylor commented on Local-first software: You own your data, in spite of the cloud (2019) inkandswitch.com/local-fi... · Posted by u/Jtsummers
Looks visually quite similar to Actual[0][1][2] (open-source, local-first). Did one influence the other? Are they both inspired by some other budget software?
[1] https://github.com/actualbudget/actual
[2] https://github.com/actualbudget/actual/blob/d1e57340b88960d0...
I discovered Actual while I was working on Dollero although it was not open source at the time. I believe we were both influenced by YNAB classic, hence the similar layout. I imagine hosting Actual was time consuming and expensive for the author because all syncing appears to rely on a centralized server and database. I'm hoping to avoid this with Dollero because the peer-to-peer syncing requires a much simpler server and is cheap and easy to host.
My side project is a personal budgeting web app [0] based on these principles. The technologies to support this type of architecture are available and fairly mature.
For example in my budgeting app:
- All of the user's budget data is stored client side in IndexedDB
- Offline support via a service worker
- Peer to peer synchronization between devices via WebRTC data channel
- Lightweight IdP server which also handles the WebRTC signalling (via web sockets)
evtaylor commented on Ask HN: Those making $0/month or less on side projects – Show and tell · Posted by u/code_Whisperer
Dollero - https://dollero.app/
Dollero is a personal budgeting web app which doesn't store any of your budgeting data in the cloud. Instead your budget data is stored locally in your browser with IndexedDB and is synced peer to peer with your other devices using WebRTC. It's currently is free and makes no money although I would like to eventually charge a small monthly fee for syncing your budget between devices.
evtaylor commented on Ask HN: What have you created that deserves a second chance on HN? · Posted by u/paulgb
evtaylor commented on Ask HN: What have you created that deserves a second chance on HN? · Posted by u/paulgb
evtaylor commented on Ask HN: What have you created that deserves a second chance on HN? · Posted by u/paulgb
evtaylor commented on Ask HN: What have you created that deserves a second chance on HN? · Posted by u/paulgb
Looks heavily inspired by youneedabudget (YNAB). Accurate? I assume it is, since you offer an "import" from YNAB.
Did you start creating this after YNAB launched their higher prices or what was the impetus?
I have my doubts about there not being a dedicated app on the phone. The most important feature of YNAB is being able to easily add transactions and since you are going the route of no automated import, manual transaction adding from mobile will be CRITICAL to get perfect.
YNAB's solution is really, really good in that space. How does yours compare?
Thanks for taking a look at Dollero. I've been a YNAB Classic (YNAB4) user for almost a decade but was disappointed when they moved to a SaaS cloud based model (even though I understand their motivations). I enjoyed not paying a monthly fee and that syncing was supported through Dropbox where I had full control of my data. YNAB Classic hasn't been supported for a while and I didn't want to wait around for an OS update to kill it so I created Dollero.
I enter most of my transactions on my phone and I agree that the mobile experience is key. Dollero is a responsive PWA so it can be used offline and can be installed by "Adding to home screen" on a mobile device resulting in an experience that is very similar to a native app. I'm continuing to polish and improve that part of the app.
YNAB is a great product and is ideal for people who are new to budgeting and desire an automatic bank account import.
Dollero is for people who want an envelope budgeting system, like YNAB, but are price sensitive and value their privacy. Dollero is free to use. Data syncing between devices will be a small monthly fee (currently free while in beta) making it much more affordable than YNAB, especially for folks in low income countries. Dollero respects your privacy, your data stays in your browser and is synced directly between your devices. For existing YNAB users I've added back some features that were removed from the new YNAB like multi-month view and carrying negative category balances.
evtaylor commented on Ask HN: What have you created that deserves a second chance on HN? · Posted by u/paulgb
Dollero - https://dollero.app/
I created a personal budgeting web app which doesn't store any of your financial information in the cloud. Instead your budget data is stored locally in your browser with IndexedDB and is sync'd peer to peer with your other devices using WebRTC.