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distract8901 commented on Autism and responding to authority (2019)   neuroclastic.com/autism-a... · Posted by u/verisimi
JohnBooty · 2 years ago

    Another way to phrase this from an Autistic PoV to an authority figure:

    You are no better than I.
Does a person really have to be "better" than you to act as some sort of authority in a particular context?

How about the gate agent at the airport, who boards and deboards people from the plane?

I don't necessarily love listening to that person, but I accept that we probably need somebody doing that job so that we can hopefully get the plane boarded and deboarded in some sort of nonchaotic way.

The thought of whether or not this person is "better" than me seems rather bizarre. They probably know how to board a plane better than me, and even if they don't, it's generally still going to be better than 200 arriving and departing passengers devolving into a free-for-all because they have 200 competing opinions of how things should work.

Generally, most sorts of "authority" I experience on a daily basis fall into this sort of mental bin for me.

Obviously that's a rather trivial example.

What's the logical endpoint of "nobody is better than me" or "nobody is better than anybody?" Just like, no rules whatsoever for anybody, unless you explicitly opt-in to some specific rule or authority figure you happen to like?

And how does this even relate to autism and/or one's (lack of) empathy?

distract8901 · 2 years ago
I think you're looking at it backwards. The problem is people with authority who think that it makes them better than you. The autistic person rejects that idea completely.

You seem to be arguing that autistic people also reject the idea that some people have authority because they are better than you in some context. This isn't the case.

At the airport, the staff has authority because they are following a higher ethical directive to protect everyone. The pilot has authority because they're responsible for dozens or hundreds of lives. The pilot is more important than you, they are a better person in this context, and thus have authority.

As a counterpoint, America is having a crisis about the authority of the police. People are rejecting the authority of the police because they assume authority makes them better, and therefore entitles them to whatever they want. Whereas police who do follow the directive to protect everyone tend to be respected and have authority because of that.

I think that most neurotypical people also reject the idea that authority makes you better. But they tend to play along with it, for some reason. The discussion here is about the autistic people who don't play along and just flatly reject the idea.

To answer your question, these types of autistic people tend to have a very strong idea of right and wrong and a rich code of ethics. Something wrong shouldn't be tolerated and should be set right. But I think most people in general feel that way.

Where autism comes into play is that an autistic person's notion of what is intolerable is often quite different. An autistic person is also more likely to lack or not care about the social inhibition against challenging or rejecting something that they feel is wrong.

distract8901 commented on Autism and responding to authority (2019)   neuroclastic.com/autism-a... · Posted by u/verisimi
roughly · 2 years ago
> How am I supposed to know which authorities it's okay to make jokes with?

With experience over time.

I think what I’m getting from this conversation is part of what’s being expressed here is a lack of awareness of social danger (don’t take that as a value judgement, just a statement). The way this looks to the rest of us is “how would I know which predator will attack me and which will not?” - and for the most part, the answer is: you don’t, so act accordingly.

distract8901 · 2 years ago
> I think what I’m getting from this conversation is part of what’s being expressed here is a lack of awareness of social danger

You're confusing "being aware of" and "caring about".

Autistic people are acutely aware of "social danger". It's something we deal with every moment of every day since we're old enough to realize we're different. For most, it's a deeply traumatic experience to deal with as a child. And by most, I mean nearly 100%. Common wisdom is that there are no un-traumatized autistic individuals.

> for the most part, the answer is: you don’t, so act accordingly

This tells me you fundamentally do not understand autism. "Act accordingly" is one of the defenses we have to learn. And we learn it totally alone. What behavior is and is not appropriate is one big stochastic experiment that lasts your entire life. We learn to observe people around us, but that's not enough. It's easy to mimic behavior, but we don't get the context or reasoning behind it until we get it wrong.

Knowing how to act accordingly is the core problem in most autistic people's lives. It's incredibly challenging and very dangerous. We have a lifetime of trauma built up around this problem, which makes it extremely stressful to be in a situation where you don't know what to do.

distract8901 commented on Autism and responding to authority (2019)   neuroclastic.com/autism-a... · Posted by u/verisimi
jancsika · 2 years ago
> I appreciate when authority originates from competence, and I am brutally introspective about my own areas of competence or lack there-of, and immediately submit and cede control if I encounter someone significantly more competent than myself in the situation of the moment.

This, along with your "low IQ" comment, makes me wonder whether you have been easily swayed in the past by mid- to high-IQ scam artists or ideologues pitching intricate schemes.

distract8901 · 2 years ago
Why are you so unwilling to accept the extensively documented phenomenon of an autistic person being more intelligent than average?

Some autistic people are genuinely ahead of the curve. Some individuals develop extreme talent/intelligence in certain areas. There is no question of whether this happens or not, it's a demonstrable fact.

Your quote illustrates something that self-aware and reasonable people do: recognize their limitations and yield to someone with more expertise.

If you think that's somehow a bad thing, you should have a really long think about what that says about you.

distract8901 commented on Autism and responding to authority (2019)   neuroclastic.com/autism-a... · Posted by u/verisimi
tristor · 2 years ago
As an autistic person, my problem with authority figures throughout my life has always been that authority figures were generally incompetent for the role they were fulfilling and they behaved in arbitrary and capricious way. Ironically, my best relationships in my childhood were always with adults who were competent authorities in their particular field, and I had zero issues whatsoever following their instruction, but I was labeled as "oppositional defiant" and "having a problem with authority" because most of the authorities in the school system and elsewhere were low IQ petty tyrants.

At no point have I ever felt that authority or hierarchy or rules are meaningless, in fact I revel in the clarity of well-written and reasoned rule sets and often wished for some clearly documented guidelines of behavior in many situations. I appreciate when authority originates from competence, and I am brutally introspective about my own areas of competence or lack there-of, and immediately submit and cede control if I encounter someone significantly more competent than myself in the situation of the moment. The problem has always been that authority is mostly exercised for authority's sake, to stroke the ego of petty tyrants who are incompetent and mean.

distract8901 · 2 years ago
Yup, the "because I said so" type really isn't worth respect in the first place.

Authority figures are fine when they act with reason and respect. When they don't, that's when we have a problem. I will never understand why neurotypicals tolerate inept and abusive authority figures. They don't even question it most of the time!

As I've gotten older, my level of tolerance for disrespectful people in general has dropped off dramatically. If you disrespect me while demanding I respect you, I'm just gonna ignore you entirely. You are literally not worth the brainpower it takes just to hear you.

distract8901 commented on Autism and responding to authority (2019)   neuroclastic.com/autism-a... · Posted by u/verisimi
ransom1538 · 2 years ago
You are a disagreeable person. I love working with disagreeable people, but I avoid them after work. On Saturday, I don't feel like being lectured to on how hamburgers are supposed to be cooked. Other guests find it rude to called out on their own occupation.
distract8901 · 2 years ago
What part of their comment is disagreeable?
distract8901 commented on Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds   blog.ornx.net/post/blueto... · Posted by u/rain1
playingalong · 2 years ago
Likely the delay is not because of the sound effect. But the other way around - they added the jingle to mask the delay.
distract8901 · 2 years ago
Bluetooth link negotiation happens in a few dozens of milliseconds. Any perceptible delay is down to the host operating system setting up audio drivers. The headset can't know what the host is doing or even that there is a delay.
distract8901 commented on Fixing the volume on my Bluetooth earbuds   blog.ornx.net/post/blueto... · Posted by u/rain1
abdullahkhalids · 2 years ago
Yeah. So Bluetooth never uses mp3 for transmission as far as I am aware - it is simply not one of the codecs specified in the protocol.

So why does that decoding chip have mp3 decoding, and why use mp3 when you could just use SBC.

distract8901 · 2 years ago
MP3 decoding is just math. If you have enough CPU to decode a compressed audio stream, it doesn't cost anything to also have it decode MP3.

Sure, you could store those clips in a more appropriate codec, but what do you gain? It's dead simple to encode an MP3, every audio editor from the last couple decades can do it. How common is SBC support?

If MP3 decoding is free, and MP3 encoding is free, why bother spending any effort at all on anything else? Sometimes good enough is good enough and cheap and easy wins over correct every time.

distract8901 commented on Cities Skylines 2 runs with 20fps on an Nvidia RTX4090   dsogaming.com/pc-performa... · Posted by u/segasaturn
HappyDaoDude · 2 years ago
Seeing what folks in the demoscene can do nowadays with such limited hardware makes modern software feel all the more puzzling. I mean, yes demoscene stuff isn't concerned about ease of development, security or integration. But it does leave you yearning, think about the possibilities of modern hardware if treated with care.
distract8901 · 2 years ago
This is the precise reason I prefer embedded development. The challenge of fitting my entire application into a handful of kilobytes with just a KB or two of RAM is a lot of fun. I get to build a program that runs really fast on a very slow system.

It's a point of personal pride for me to really understand what the machine is and what it's doing. Programming this way is working with the machine rather than trying to beat it into submission like you do with high level languages.

It seems a lot of programmers just see the CPU as a black box, if they even think about it at all. I don't expect more than a couple percent of programmers would truly grok the modern x86 architecture, but if you stop to consider how the CPU actually executes your code, you might make better decisions.

In the same vein, very high level languages are a big part of the problem. It's so far abstracted from the hardware that you can't reason about how it will actually behave on any real machine. And then you also have an invisible iceberg of layer upon layer upon layer of abstraction and indirection and unknowable, unreadable code that there's no reasonable way to know that your line of code does what you think and nothing else.

Modern software practices are bad and we should all throw away our computers and go back to the 8086. Just throw away the entire field of programming and start again.

distract8901 commented on Walgreens, CVS pharmacy staff at breaking point: here's what their days are like   cnbc.com/2023/10/27/walgr... · Posted by u/rntn
distract8901 · 2 years ago
I recently switched to a local pharmacy after getting berated by a CVS pharmacist for standing in the "wrong" line. CVS in general has been absolutely awful in the last few years.

What really turned me against them was "CVS Caremark" insurance.

CVS runs a prescription insurance company that only allows you to buy your meds at CVS or Walgreens. How that's even legal is beyond me. They also have absolutely insane policies, and will NOT pay for anything unless it's prescribed as a 90 day supply. If your doctor is adjusting your dose or you're trying a new medication, fuck you, pay up.

I also once tried CVS's free prepack services where they divide your doses into individual AM and PM plastic pouches on a big reel. Super convenient for someone with severe ADHD, as the pouches are dated, so I always know if I missed a dose.

Caremark wouldn't pay for my proscriptions filled this way. Again, a free service offered by CVS. The Caremark rep I talked to had never even heard of it before.

CVS can eat shit

distract8901 commented on Every trick Microsoft pulled to make you browse Edge instead of Chrome   theverge.com/23935029/mic... · Posted by u/pseudolus
distract8901 · 2 years ago
Slightly OT, but what the hell is going on with these massive persistent popups on every website imploring me to sign in with my google account lately? After the first dozen I just added a uBlock filter for it, but it's ridiculous now.

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