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customkitchen commented on SEC Claims All of Ethereum Falls Under US Jurisdiction   decrypt.co/110107/sec-eth... · Posted by u/yasp
peyton · 3 years ago
I take it you did not read the complaint.
customkitchen · 3 years ago
I did read it and it is honestly not that complicated. The SEC is being generous here. They could make the argument even if there were no validators. But I hope this is the start of them shutting down the validators too.
customkitchen commented on SEC Claims All of Ethereum Falls Under US Jurisdiction   decrypt.co/110107/sec-eth... · Posted by u/yasp
peyton · 3 years ago
It’s kind of bad if the SEC is making dumb arguments. They aren’t infinitely powerful; why erode their power this way?
customkitchen · 3 years ago
ETH is operating and trading with the US. It falls under US jurisdiction. The line of "we are not registered anywhere therefore we don't have to follow laws in any jurisdiction" is pretty weak and farcical. And sorry to be cheeky but... Have you seen some of the absurd claims and arguments crypto people make about the "infinite power" of crypto to somehow evade all laws and solve all social problems, while simultaneously making everyone rich just for holding some tokens? I wish I was making this up, or maybe I was just getting trolled...
customkitchen commented on SEC Claims All of Ethereum Falls Under US Jurisdiction   decrypt.co/110107/sec-eth... · Posted by u/yasp
adastra22 · 3 years ago
That's missing the point, I think. Cryptocurrency applications and services are of course subject to the laws of local jurisdictions in which they operate. But for a decentralized protocol, what law enforcement can do is limited.

Maybe better to consider the same problem in a different domain: encryption. A court can order you to give up your encryption key or password. They can even do this if you don't know or have lost your password/key. But neither the court nor its enforcement agencies can simply issue a judgement to decrypt an encrypted email; your compliance is required. The court can hold you in contempt for the rest of your life for not revealing a key you may or may not have, but they can't force you to decrypt it if the key is lost or you don't give in.

Likewise for cryptocurrency and "code is law" smart contracts. A court (or regulator) could demand all they want that a bitcoin transaction be reversed, or that a DAO smart contract be frozen. But if the underlying protocol works as it is supposed to, and if mining/staking is properly decentralized, there ain't shit they can do to actually enforce that demand.

People transacting on a blockchain are still subject to local laws, and need to comply with relevant regulatory directives. No one of consequence seriously believes that something is above the law just because it happens on a blockchain. But pragmatically, a regulator can control the blockchain about as effectively as NASA could get into space by legislating gravity.

customkitchen · 3 years ago
How many people have committed such egregious crimes using blockchains that it is literally worse to spend your entire life in jail than it is to give up your Bitcoins? That scenario you've presented makes absolutely no sense to me.

But anyway, it's still entirely wrong because they can still just catch you using traditional means. Like catching you on tape admitting you stole the Bitcoins, or getting a video of you doing it, or getting credible witnesses to say that you did it. Or similarly, to retrieve the stolen coins just get a video of your keyboard while you type the pass phrase to the wallet, or just liquidate the rest of your assets into dollars and pay back the victim that way... Like the whole thing just makes no sense. Even if it did actually work it would still be terrible because the system you describe means that if you get your bitcoins stolen and you catch the thief and he admits he did it and then intentionally goes to jail to avoid having to give the tokens back so they just sit there unused in the wallet just to spite you... you can literally never get them back. Why would anyone actually want that??? I am honestly trying not to make this so outlandish but this is entirely what you just described. It's completely ridiculous.

The only thing this accomplishes is if you are trying to destroy money and make someone suffer by taking destructive actions... but like, if you are really an evil and petty criminal person you can also just do that with anything else? Like, rob them at gunpoint and set their cash on fire? Or slash their car tires? No one needs Bitcoins just to be an asshole, you can see that every day on this planet...

customkitchen commented on Apple is top funder of lobby group that says it represents small developers   arstechnica.com/tech-poli... · Posted by u/commoner
saurik · 3 years ago
Frankly--as someone at the front line of all of this stuff--none of these DMCA related arguments have much "practical" importance in the medium-to-long term :/. (This is not at all to say it is a waste of time or anything: the right to examine products and discuss what you learn is really really important and is the basis of security research, so these lawsuits are extremely important and this DMCA law--which likely will only ever die due to first amendment issues because it is locked in via international treaty--is extremely harmful.)

The reality is that tech companies are winning this war, technologically, because asymmetric cryptography works--so there isn't some secret key embedded in the devices that you can merely extract and use--and the industry is getting better about not causing regressions. The big battle over unlocking cellphones from 5-10 years ago? That was nothing more than a gambit (which worked, btw) to change the process rules, because no one is actually using technological techniques to supply unlock codes anyway (it is now all via, shall we say... "light corporate espionage" ;P).

In a world where I am allowed to make a jailbreak that doesn't mean I can make a jailbreak, as we can see in the war with Apple: the reason there aren't jailbreaks for modern iPhones right now isn't because of DMCA fears. We live in an awkward time where bugs can be features :(. The real "practical" changes are thereby going to have to come from proactive regulation that prohibits certain forms of protection or corporate behavior, not attempts to defend the rights of users to publish what they can find and build. I would more watch Right to Repair, or the various antitrust lawsuits (including my related Apple one).

(Note: I know I didn't directly tackle whether anything anyone is doing might help you backup your streaming licensed content, but I also appreciate you didn't directly ask me anyway ;P. I have not heard of such, but I don't pay as much attention to that kind of content. The issue in Green and Huang's cases, though, is about being able to publish information and tools that might help you rip such content, and the reality is you can likely already do that and to the extent to which people start only letting locked down devices with encrypted cables access content, I think you will see companies win that in the next 5-10 years and the legality of publishing a workaround won't matter as there won't be any workarounds to publish. And whether it is legal to do that backup for content no one even pretended you can "buy" seems orthogonal to the efforts I have seen or been involved with.)

customkitchen · 3 years ago
>the right to examine products and discuss what you learn is really really important and is the basis of security research

I hate to push back on you (of all people) for this, but no it's actually not. You are talking too much with your hacker hat on and not enough with your legal hat on. There is quite a difference between accredited security firms doing responsible security research, and random unaffiliated parties with shifting and conflicting motivations doing "security research". That angle is a losing angle and it's not because these companies did anything, it's because it is actually a fallacious and bad meme that has propagated around forever in hacker circles, seemingly for no other reason than that it is fun to think about it.

In my opinion, if you follow that "right" to its legal and technical conclusion, you will end up with the "right" of corporate security firms to do research. That's it. I don't mean to be all doom and gloom though. You are right that the idea of "right to repair" is a much broader thing that makes a much more compelling case for any kind of consumer protection angle.

customkitchen commented on It's time to halt starting any new projects in C/C++   twitter.com/markrussinovi... · Posted by u/mustache_kimono
ghoward · 3 years ago
I understand you think it's awful, but I do like it. Everyone has their preference.
customkitchen · 3 years ago
You can like something and still admit that it is awful. I "liked" C for a long time before there were better options...
customkitchen commented on It's time to halt starting any new projects in C/C++   twitter.com/markrussinovi... · Posted by u/mustache_kimono
ghoward · 3 years ago
Unless he means that Rust should be used on projects where the Rust compiler is available for all relevant platforms and C and C++ can be used otherwise, I disagree.

In fact, until LLVM is replaced, C++ will probably be the language of choice for new languages. Even `rustc` requires a C++ bootstrap for that purpose.

There are also other important C++ and C libraries that will continue to mean C and C++ may be better choices than Rust in certain cases.

And don't get me started on embedded.

Also, that doesn't even matter when the purpose is a hobby project (such as mine) where the programmer has no interest in Rust (such as me).

I like how Trevor Jim put it [1] better:

> If you decide to write your project in C/C++ you must have a plan for handling the inevitable memory corruption in advance. Anything else is malpractice.

This is possible to do. I've released a non-trivial program that has had no known memory bugs ever since 1.0 on 2018-10-26. It is written in C. And I challenge anyone to find one in any release since then. You might find one, but I think it will be tough.

In other words, it's possible to put C and C++ on the same footing as Rust when it comes to memory bugs; after all, even Rust is not perfect there.

Yes, it takes more effort. A lot more effort. For my hobby projects, that works fine because I'd rather work in C with the extra effort than in Rust.

Oh, and it's possible to make C as good as Rust: I've got macros to do automatic bounds checking. I've got RAII and stack traces. I've got structured concurrency, which will give the same capabilities as the Rust borrow checker if you adjust your coding style. And all this in portable C11.

So no, Rust is not the end-all be-all of languages. Sorry.

Rant about absolutist opinion over.

But seriously, use Rust if it's available for your target platforms, and you have no other preference.

[1]: http://trevorjim.com/using-an-unsafe-language-is-a-design-fl...

customkitchen · 3 years ago
If we are offering absolutist opinions, I would like to offer a counterpoint.

>I've got macros to do automatic bounds checking. I've got RAII and stack traces. I've got structured concurrency, which will give the same capabilities as the Rust borrow checker if you adjust your coding style. And all this in portable C11.

You can do this all in C but it is an absolute nightmare. Every large C program grows some strange bespoke and incompatible versions of all that stuff at some point. And they're all a pain to use because none of it is idiomatic to the language. It's seriously awful. Things like the Linux kernel are the worst offenders. I will be happy when the C language finally reaches the end of its miserable, slow, agonizing death.

customkitchen commented on SEC Claims All of Ethereum Falls Under US Jurisdiction   decrypt.co/110107/sec-eth... · Posted by u/yasp
WheelsAtLarge · 3 years ago
This sounds like bad news but I see it as good news. The only way the SEC can go after fraudsters is to have jurisdiction over what they have done. The SEC can now go after the frauds against Ethereum users no matter where the fraud was committed.

Crypto will never be a legitimate investment class if people can't trust that they will get their investment back. It's also impossible for it grow to fill a need without trust. Crypto-Land should be jumping with joy at hearing this news.

customkitchen · 3 years ago
If you take that angle then crypto will still never be a legitimate investment class either way, because all of it (including BTC and ETH and everything else) is a giant fraud predicated on the falsehood that it is "decentralized" and somehow that makes it unregulated. There is no other reason for it to exist. This is just another nail in the coffin, they can't lie about it anymore.

If crypto-land really wants to follow through on their lawless anarchist fantasies, then they should be even happier if the SEC bans all of it outright. Then they can all go back to their roots when the only thing bitcoin was used for was illegal black market drug transactions...

customkitchen commented on An X11 apologist tries Wayland   artemis.sh/2022/09/18/way... · Posted by u/xena
wooque · 3 years ago
Wayland is not GNOME, what you describe is not Wayland problem, but GNOME problem.

It's possible in both KDE and Sway.

GNOME is probably worst DE imaginable. After 20 years, they still don't have thumbnails in filepicker and even dropped preview side pane in GTK4. I can't even.

customkitchen · 3 years ago
>GNOME is probably worst DE imaginable. After 20 years, they still don't have thumbnails in filepicker and even dropped preview side pane in GTK4.

Really disappointing to see this very lazy and trite criticism upvoted. If you look in KDE Plasma or Sway, you can also find plenty of missing features and bugs. You can find those anywhere.

customkitchen commented on An X11 apologist tries Wayland   artemis.sh/2022/09/18/way... · Posted by u/xena
ongy · 3 years ago
You are saying that as if the part of the X11 protocol that's reasonable to run over the network was the better API that application developers are simply too lazy to use.

While the reality is, that toolkits (and applications) used to use those APIs and were revamped to use the DRI APIs and general bitmap based windowing. The old APIs don't support double buffering, access to GPUs with modern APIs (both opengl[indirect sucks] and Vulkan). They don't provide modern font rendering, or any kind of graphical effect (distortions) that UI people might want to play with.

They would be significantly worse for anything displaying animations and one of the most common client libs (libx11) is serial and thus horribly latency sensitive.

The advantage of VNC isn't lossy compression. Which isn't forced by it either. But it handles networking better with bitmaps. And has improvements like acting as a screen/tmux style connectable session for graphical applications. Both VNC/RDB can also support showing the server's desktop if it has one, not just running other applications than currently open elsewhere.

The only advantage of old style X11 was that it's ubiquitous. But since it hasn't been used in ages since it doesn't work well with modern computers/UI frameworks that advantage is gone. And there's 0 reason to try and reimplement that in a new windowing protocol, when there's objectively better choices out there already. Local optimized windowing is a different beast than network capable.

customkitchen · 3 years ago
You might also want to note that the fantasy of being able to use the same protocol to drive the local display and also operate over a network, is long dead. It seems like a clever idea but it doesn't actually work. It ceased to be a thing entirely the moment wide area networks became popular. The local and remote cases are two completely different situations that need their own individual attention. Even when developing against X11 protocol you still have to consider this in modern times because the DRI extension is not available over the network.

Compare to a protocol like RDP which is extremely optimized for efficient and secure network operation, but is also way more complicated as a result, and it would be foolish to use it on a local display server.

customkitchen commented on An X11 apologist tries Wayland   artemis.sh/2022/09/18/way... · Posted by u/xena
michaelmrose · 3 years ago
Look at this very statement it's completely inaccurate in a trivial fashion that ought not required analysis but here we are.

The people who actually develop x or wayland are a tiny number of people. The people expressing opinions on the internet on tech is 1000x larger. The implications that the proponents are correct in their analysis because they develop it is fatally flawed if for no other reason than the subject is obviously not solely the tiny number of actual devs. Furthermore the arguments even of devs needs to stand on their own feet.

Look at the prior comments where someone complains that random crashes result in the entire session going down.

Who cares what anyone says about the theoretical design decisions regarding manifestly unsuitable tools.

customkitchen · 3 years ago
You can make all the arguments you want but it won't do anything meaningful. If those 1000x people expressing opinions have the necessary domain expertise, and aren't just tossing out their feelings on what they think might be cool or might be nice in a perfect world, then they should start contributing to these projects and fixing the bugs.

I mean, I think it would be cool if my PC never crashed. Isn't it easy and fun to say things like that?

u/customkitchen

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