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conover commented on The disguised return of EU Chat Control   reclaimthenet.org/the-dis... · Posted by u/egorfine
conover · a month ago
This is the classic precision versus recall discussion. The discussion centers around how you think about the cost of a false positive versus false negative.

Some people think it's fine for the process to have low precision but high recall. Low precision is that of the number of conversations the process flagged as a positive, some unacceptable (to you) percentage turned out to be a not/false "positive". High recall is that of all the actually positive conversations, the process flagged an acceptable (to you) percentage of them as positive (i.e. only "missed" a few/false negative).

What does it cost to wrongly identify conversation a positive when it's really not a positive (false positive)?

What does it cost to wrongly identify a conversation as a negative when it's really a positive (false negative)?

You decide.

conover commented on Ancient Patagonian hunter-gatherers took care of their injured and disabled   phys.org/news/2025-10-anc... · Posted by u/pseudolus
Broken_Hippo · 2 months ago
Go ahead. Invent some new tech that absolutely no one know about or how to do and that isn't based on any known tech. I'm waiting. What's taking so long?

Discovering stuff is hard and harder if you don't think you need it. People kept fire going before they knew how to start fires. If you don't know about the concept of flint or lighting dry stuff with sparks, it is really hard to invent fire starting. Writing isn't as useful if you can just learn what you need to know while growing up. A more complicated world later - as are discoveries slowly started to build up - probably created the need.

But again, those discoveries are hard and they took time. A really long time, apparently.

conover · 2 months ago
I think there is a tendency to project the modern era's speed of technological progress back in time, which isn't reasonable. We went from the Wright Brothers to Apollo 11 in 66 years. The first transistor to the iPhone in ~60 years. That rate of development is...new.
conover commented on Root cause analysis? You're doing it wrong   entropicthoughts.com/root... · Posted by u/davedx
CobrastanJorji · 2 months ago
Many years ago, I worked at Amazon, and it was at the time quite fond of the "five whys" approach to root cause analysis: say what happened, ask why that happened, ask why that in turn happened, and keep going until you get to some very fundamental problem.

I was asked to write up such a document for an incident where our team had written a new feature which, upon launch, did absolutely nothing. Our team had accidentally mistyped a flag name on the last day before we handed it to a test team, the test team examined the (nonfunctional) tool for a few weeks and blessed it, and then upon turning it on, it failed to do anything. My five whys document was most about "what part of our process led to a multiweek test effort that would greenlight a tool that does nothing that it is required to do."

I recall my manager handing the doc back to me and saying that I needed to completely redo it because it was unacceptable for us to blame another team for our team's bug, which is how I learned that you can make a five why process blame any team you find convenient by choosing the question. I quit not too long after that.

conover · 2 months ago
In my experience, you can weaponize processes like the Five Whys or the Amazon Leadership Principles. I don’t think that means they don’t have any value.

That being said, in this case, I agree with your manager. Both the QA team and your team had fundamental problems.

Your team (I assume) verified the functionality which included X set of changes, and then your team made Y more changes (the flag) which were not verified. Ideally, once the functionality is verified, no more changes would be permitted in order to prevent this type of problem.

The fundamental problems on the QA team were…extensive.

conover commented on Warner Bros Joins Disney in Suing Sling TV for Making Streaming Video Cheaper   techdirt.com/2025/09/26/w... · Posted by u/voxadam
fuzzfactor · 3 months ago
>Warner Bros lawyer David Yohai argues that this kind of convenience simply cannot be allowed:

    “The passes fundamentally disrupt this industry-standard model by allowing customers to purchase access to the most sought-after programming, such as major sports events, essentially a la carte for a fraction of the cost that the consumer would have had to pay to watch the event on a pay-per-view basis. For example, a sports fan could simply purchase a day pass and watch select programming, such as a highly popular sports game, without purchasing a month-long subscription or paying a higher pay-per-view fee.”
Some of these "businessmen" are such weak performers that anything which could result in the customer getting a better deal is now unfair competition.

With extreme legal consequences in store for anybody who even tries to give a customer their money's worth.

God forbid, that could make so many people embarrassed across-the-board.

It could bring down whole business schools left and right ;)

conover · 3 months ago
The problem is that these companies are locked into years long, multi-billion dollar contracts with the sports leagues. Those contracts are predicated on their existing monetization model. The economics of those contracts no longer make sense if the model changes. A lot of money is on the line. So they are going to fight hard.
conover commented on Weaponizing Ads: How Google and Facebook Ads Are Used to Wage Propaganda Wars   medium.com/@eslam.elsewed... · Posted by u/bhouston
jpadkins · 3 months ago
> Google did not pro-actively vet the truth of Israeli government claims

It is really scary that people are pushing for Google and Meta to be the arbiter of truth. I don't think people realize what they are asking for. Western civilizations have a tradition of liberal free speech, and allowing the courts to sort out the specifics of what speech causes harm to what parties (libel, etc).

There are already laws on the books for false advertising. In the US, the FTC is one who prosecutes those laws, not Google or Meta!

full disclosure: I work on Ads at Google. You really don't want to privatize the prosecution, judgement, jury, and execution of speech laws to mega corps (and I am usually pro-privatization on most topics).

conover · 3 months ago
The government (and/or society?) have already deputized private organizations to enforce various types of controls either implicitly or explicitly. Banks (AML) and Payment Processors (recent Steam content removal news) come to mind. Irrespective of whether it's a good or bad things, it already exists.
conover commented on SFStreets: History of San Francisco place names   sfstreets.noahveltman.com... · Posted by u/jxmorris12
madcaptenor · 6 months ago
previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39462516 (worth it for the comments)
conover · 6 months ago
A French Drain has nothing to do with France! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_drain
conover commented on Sweden acquires IRIS-T SLM air defence system under European Sky Shield   defence-industry.eu/swede... · Posted by u/doener
conover · 6 months ago
Fully operational in 2030. I guess better late than never, but that’s a long time off.
conover commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
standardUser · 6 months ago
Uber barely operates in huge swaths of the US. I've been in parts of Idaho and Kansas where wait times during the day can be a half an hour and after a certain hour no drivers are available at all. And the drivers who operate in these areas tend to be far less experienced/professional than in denser areas (to put it politely). Waymo solves all of this with just a handful of cars in each county.
conover · 6 months ago
Bainbridge Island (connected to Seattle by ferry) is like this. There is approximately one Uber driver, at least the last time I was there, and good luck if you get back to the island later in the day. A single Waymo would be amazing.
conover commented on Menstrual tracking app data is gold mine for advertisers that risks women safety   cam.ac.uk/research/news/m... · Posted by u/_p2zi
rustcleaner · 6 months ago
Probably the best one-liner fix in law I can think of, is to make it a imprisonable felony to give money to someone or an organization for the purpose of speaking a particular message as their own, and accepting money in exchange for speaking a message as your own. Basically ban advertising, or at least make each commercial basically say "General Motors has paid us to tell you that ... ... ..." instead of the sexy seductive style we have today. Ads, if they are to exist at all, should be limited to factual/quantitative statements about performance and reliability, and must not use any suggestive/qualitative statements. We need to make the various pillars of modern advertising criminal offenses: the main one is the use of psychological/memetic trickery to spread and make memorable a message for commercial purposes, then there's the financial incentive to shit up our cyberspaces with sponsored messages. The only place I should EVER EVER EEEVERRR find an advertisement for (say) a plumber, should be in the local directory for businesses under the plumbing section, and the list must be sortable and filterable by basic transparent criteria (no hidden magic feed algorithms).

It is legal to swindle someone in this country, so long as they get swindled enthusiastically and don't think they got swindled. I think being induced to buy a hamburger at midnight by a well placed ad, instead of just reheating some left-overs, is a swindling even if your dependency on this model for your economic survival has you kneejerking on me! The goal is we all turn into self-sufficient economic agents, not be labor-cattle induced by advertising memes to go into interest bearing debt by a thousand little charges.

conover · 6 months ago
At least in the US, you are going to run into problems with the First Amendment (eg Central Hudson Test).
conover commented on First Tesla Robotaxi Spotted Driving Around Austin   insideevs.com/news/762286... · Posted by u/andsoitis
andsoitis · 6 months ago
I, too, drive just with vision as sensory input.
conover · 6 months ago
Oh yeah? You don’t use your sense of hearing and your internal sense of direction, vertical elevation, etc.?

u/conover

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