Mmmm, so... sub 100MB for a bundler + compiler + etc?
77MB is nothing, and if you care about this, you're caring about the wrong things.
Exactly
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cnp commented on Parcel – A fast, zero configuration web application bundler parceljs.org/... · Posted by u/KeitIG
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Totally agreed, after I jumped through the hoops of learning RxJS I realized it can replace all the libraries you mentioned just because of the way RxJS worked. If you are interested, I created a small little Redux-clone based on Observables/RxJS as a fun project, but am using it in my side projects in production now: https://github.com/Dynalon/reactive-state
This is nice! Thanks for sharing
cnp commented on Redux-zero: A lightweight state container based on Redux github.com/concretesoluti... · Posted by u/uptown
> extremely minimal and easy-to-use library.
'Extremely minimal' is hyperbole and 'easy-to-use' is subjective. I disagree with this as an absolute statement. I think there's a trade off, and it potentially harms onboarding for some teams, see my sibling-ish comment.
I agree with your comment, but disagree that all of the concepts you listed need be understood completely when just getting started. Once the flow is recognized (which in my experience teaching others rarely takes more than a single pairing session) there's basically nothing left but a few functions that pass data in a circle. Everything else that you described comes later, and that later doesn't take long.
cnp commented on Redux-zero: A lightweight state container based on Redux github.com/concretesoluti... · Posted by u/uptown
I think you are missing out on the point that Redux can be very difficult to learn and build a real app around for many people.
> it's all of a few hundred lines of code
I hear this a lot, but it reminds me of folks praising Lisp for its simplicity - it may be 'simple' but many people have a hard time understanding it.
Maybe it's not for every app, but goes into this here: https://medium.com/@matheusml/great-question-bryan-waddingto...
It's very important that people understand _how_ and _why_ the flux pattern is valuable before they start using Redux, especially if coming from an MVC background. Once you understand that, the learning curve drops away revealing an extremely minimal and easy-to-use library.
cnp commented on How MDMA Went from Club Drug to ‘Breakthrough Therapy’ wsj.com/articles/how-mdma... · Posted by u/anythingnonidin
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Thank you :)
cnp commented on How MDMA Went from Club Drug to ‘Breakthrough Therapy’ wsj.com/articles/how-mdma... · Posted by u/anythingnonidin
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cnp commented on Understanding redux-saga: From action creators to sagas blog.logrocket.com/unders... · Posted by u/efunction
Strongly agree having worked on projects that use redux-saga. More difficult to debug, more magic, no real benefits. I would love to be proven wrong however.
How large were the projects? Was there a high level of concurrency? redux-saga is definitely an example of over-engineering unless you fully understand its benefits (which are many, depending on context).
cnp commented on Understanding redux-saga: From action creators to sagas blog.logrocket.com/unders... · Posted by u/efunction
Agreed, not sure what this gives over redux-promise-middleware, which lets you write things like:
function myAction () {
return {
type: 'MY_ACTION',
payload: someApiCall(),
}
}
function myAction () {
return {
type: 'MY_ACTION',
async payload (dispatch) {
const apiResult = await someApiCall()
dispatch(anotherActionCauseWhyNot(apiResult))
return apiResult
}
}
}
The library helps manage complex, concurrent in-flight workflows. Games are a great example of this, or something like a flight booking app that communicates with many different processes and servers and you need to ensure that fine-grained control is maintained at all times.