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caracustard commented on Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics   gpdp.it/web/guest/home/do... · Posted by u/giuliomagnifico
xnickb · 4 years ago
Replying to a comment that states: "not everything revolves around money" with "but we make more money".
caracustard · 4 years ago
That's one way to read it, except it's more like "replying to a comment stating that EU startups (something that is about money) don't have to catch up to their US competitors with "sure, but don't get surprised when EU startups are going to be at a huge disadvantage when it comes to offering a worthy reward as a result of "not caring about money"".
caracustard commented on Why America can’t build   palladiummag.com/2022/06/... · Posted by u/fra
carabiner · 4 years ago
Meanwhile, China is building high speed rail, roads, and bridges around the world, mainly in Eastern Europe and Africa. Biden has announced a competing initiative: https://www.npr.org/2022/06/24/1106979380/g7-summit-2022-ger... but we all know this is empty talk. The US cannot build in its own land; outside of the US, it is hopeless.
caracustard · 4 years ago
You also forgot to mention the terms on which China does that and at whose cost. Also, it's one thing to "just" build something, but a whole other to maintain and service.
caracustard commented on Why America can’t build   palladiummag.com/2022/06/... · Posted by u/fra
davesque · 4 years ago
People generally call out NIMBY-ism as though it's just some sort of irrational bias that people have, but I don't think that always explains it. Sure, in a lot of cases, people are overprotective of their neighborhoods or communities. But where did that attitude come from? I'd argue it came from decades of corporate greed and government dysfunction that bred a general distrust of large institutions. It's not like people have no reason to feel like big business doesn't have their best interests in mind.

Another commenter gave the construction of highways as an example, saying that people used to look at large infrastructure projects like that with a positive attitude. Well, I'd say look where that got them. The way highways were built in this country completely wrecked communities (especially poor ones located in less desirable parts of town) and eventually led to the uniquely American aesthetic of the urban and suburban wasteland.

If large organizations in this country want to undertake large projects, they have to first work to regain the trust of the average person by acting like they actually give a damn and really want to the world to be a better place for their efforts.

caracustard · 4 years ago
"...people are overprotective of their neighborhoods or communities." Me: huh, people seem to finally get why NIMBY is a thing! "...it came from decades of corporate greed and government dysfunction..." Me: nevermind...

NIMBY is simply people wanting the things to be as they always were. That's about it. Say you lived in the area for 10 years, you've made friends there, you're used to things. Suddenly someone comes by and says that it's time to build something that you don't really care about. What would your reaction be other than NIMBY? You like everything as it already is, there is no need to change anything, now let me watch my game in peace and then i'll go fishing.

"... look where that got them. " A system that allowed for easier travel, transportation of goods, a system that created a brand new (for the time) travel culture? I can go on and on, but mind you that railways weren't exactly the most community-friendly (whatever it means) thing either.

"...urban and suburban wasteland." Lesson learned: don't build roads or connect states of a huge country, allowing people to travel wherever they want in the comfort of their vehicle, otherwise in the future you'd be ostracized for the actions of those who came long after you and decided not to innovate in the infrastructure industry.

caracustard commented on Why America can’t build   palladiummag.com/2022/06/... · Posted by u/fra
oceanplexian · 4 years ago
> Building more housing solves this problem. NYC is not even close to "very high density".

High density is a terrible way to live. I thought we learned from the pandemic that high density living is unsanitary and promotes the proliferation of disease, and that a 600 square foot box is a really depressing place to be when you're stuck inside working from home.

The solution that the current generation loves to hate is to go back to a more suburban lifestyle. But it's possible to do suburbia without making it completely car-dependent. Look at planned cities like Portland, OR, where they have a lot of mixed use development paired with good public transportation and bicycle infrastructure well into the more suburban parts of the city. In a country like the United States where we have vast expanses of land, it makes a lot more sense to spread out than develop vertically.

caracustard · 4 years ago
The reason that the current generation hates suburbia to me seems like a result of a cultural process that can be considered borderline indoctrination and the fact that for whatever reason suburbia doesn't move on with the times. I can understand those who are dissatisfied with the current state of suburbia (e.g. lack of entertainment options, lack of public spaces that don't look like a repurposed commercial property), though many of those issues may be attributed to the scale of the land as a whole, but you'd be surprised that the idea of moving to an apartment block from say a generic suburban home is not viewed as a downgrade by some. Another thing is that classic suburbia often has a uniform look, which might negatively contribute to the entire perception of suburban housing, but then again, same people who complain about it have no problem with same-looking generic apartment blocks.
caracustard commented on If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)   anildash.com/2011/07/20/i... · Posted by u/Tomte
rhn_mk1 · 4 years ago
I'm sure if you stopped paying the street sweepers, you'd find out that a lot of them don't care about sanitation, and the rest can't pick up the burden. That's why they get paid.

Even then, I'd rather have one of those motivated by cleanliness service my area. Just the same way, I'll choose a forum that's not monetized.

I don't see how that sentence means that funding is needed. Plenty of forums exist with community moderation. Whether the person doing the work is compensated in respect and social connections, or money, doesn't really make a difference to me.

caracustard · 4 years ago
Exactly. And what do people do when there are tasks that: a) most people don't care about and b) are fundamental to the well being of the community? They offer a reward for accomplishing those tasks.

Why would they service your area at all? Are you sure that your area has people that would go around keeping the streets clean 8 hours a day for nothing in return? Not choosing a forum just because it's monetized is an odd choice to be fair, considering that this conversation takes place on a website that's, well... monetized.

Read the article again and see the context that the sentence was used in. Yes, plenty of forums exist with community moderation, but if the goal is to make a forum a place that is not going to become a disaster, a motivated and well compensated employee is the only solution. Otherwise you're relying on someones occasional contribution to the well being of the community rather than have things go smoothly at all times.

caracustard commented on If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)   anildash.com/2011/07/20/i... · Posted by u/Tomte
krapp · 4 years ago
>Is "absence of monetization" a value?

If capitalism is a value, then anti-capitalism is also a value. A lot of people believe the presence of capitalism on the web is fundamentally antithetical to what they see as its fundamentally anarchist/anti-establishment ethos.

Besides, the cost per month of running a small forum nowadays is less than what many people here spend on a single lunch. Not everyone is running a business or a startup.

caracustard · 4 years ago
Ah, the fundamentally anarchist/anti-establishment ethos of millions of computers connected to each other (making a coordinated and organized establishment of their own with hierarchical substructures).
caracustard commented on If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)   anildash.com/2011/07/20/i... · Posted by u/Tomte
rhn_mk1 · 4 years ago
It is a value. It means that the incentives of the user and the producer are aligned: to enjoy the time in a community, rather than have one try to extract money.

Aside from that, not everything needs to be a business, and even then, not everything needs to be profitable.

caracustard · 4 years ago
By that logic lets stop paying street sweepers and sanitation workers. See, their incenitives are mutually aligned with the interests of those who walk the streets, so there is no reason to "extract money".

Sure thing, but the article in question EXPLICITLY mentions "You should make a budget that supports having a good community, or you should find another line of work.", which means that one way or another funding is needed, unless you're comfortable with making someone read through kilobytes of drivel and spam in their free (or perhaps not so free) time.

caracustard commented on Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics   gpdp.it/web/guest/home/do... · Posted by u/giuliomagnifico
xnickb · 4 years ago
Let me guess, you're from the US and user surveillance is beneficial to your business so naturally everyone with non-capitalist (read not $$$-centric) ideology is plain wrong. EU startups don't have to "catch up" or even compete with US start ups.
caracustard · 4 years ago
Does this imply that the EU is "non-capitalist" or something?

"EU startups don't have to "catch up"..." then don't get surprised when EU talent is poached by US and Asian HRs for x2-x3 rates. And before you're gonna talk about all those "free" (taxpayer funded) services and how no European would ever move to Asia or NA, i'd like to remind you that we're in the remote work world now :)

caracustard commented on ‘Anti-hunger’ molecule forms after exercise, scientists discover   med.stanford.edu/news/all... · Posted by u/echen
hypertele-Xii · 4 years ago
> I just eat what I like and am happy

An unacceptably selfish attitude in 2022 where industrial-scale mass production of meat foods are literally making our planet unlivable at alarming rates.

As a conscious human being within civilized society you have a responsibility to do the right thing, even if it means taking on a little discomfort in the short term.

Your happiness has less priority than our survival as a species.

caracustard · 4 years ago
Diets are not a "little discomfort in the short term" and treating them in such a way is a slippery slope to things that neither you nor i would be happy to observe. To adopt a particular diet means to be reliant on a specific set of foods, which is not feasable. Diets are also geographical and are shaped by the conditions that those who follow the diet have to live in. It's not as easy as "just don't eat meat".
caracustard commented on Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you   digest.bps.org.uk/2022/06... · Posted by u/sofard
caracustard · 4 years ago
Great, now all the supervisor-management-efficiency-productivity-optimization junkies have a perfect reason to mandate uniforms in workplaces that don't require a uniform. Way to go.

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