Any thoughts on CSPs making money from open source projects while the open source developers (e.g., Redis, Mongo, Hashi) suffer)?
https://keycloak.devstats.cncf.io/d/1/activity-repository-gr...
CNCF has probably 20x the funding of the ASF and is a different organization that spends millions of dollars on security audits, events and more, you can read about it in our annual report: https://www.cncf.io/reports/cncf-annual-report-2023/
Also we actively remove/prune projects that aren't active... we will probably archive ~10 this year https://www.cncf.io/project-metrics/
I know it's not as popular or sexy as it used to be, but the whole point of a foundation like Apache was to avoid these situations, even more than the way the Linux Foundation is setup. Apache _explicitly_ manages projects to avoid these downsides.
- Single corporation ownership. Projects cannot get out of the Incubator unless they demonstrate a diverse and healthy community. That doesn't mean popular, it doesn't necessarily mean best-in-class, but it means that there shouldn't be just one entity backing a project.
- Membership in Apache is _personal_ not a seat for a given company. If you're a committer on an Apache project and you move jobs, you're _still_ a committer on that project
- The Foundation owns the trademarks. There have been fights about this in the past, but the whole idea is that the _community_ owns the name, so some corporation can't claim to be the sole or official owner by naming their company or product after the open source product.
The core premise of the Apache Software Foundation is community over code, that healthy, diverse communities have a better chance of standing the test of time than open source projects backed by a single individual or company. That's the thesis at least.
The is starkly different from several other foundations, notably the Linux Foundation or Eclipse Foundation which are modeled more around industry consortiums.
Both models have their place, but I believe Apache better models the core values many of us feel strongly about when it comes to free and open source software.
I actually prefer the approach of LF, EF or CNCF where it's transparent where folks work for and your affiliation is disclosed upfront. In the CNCF for example, we separate out technical project decisions (maintainers) from funding decisions (members). That is healthier than blending it all in one at the ASF imho and having no idea where person is working for imho.
In some ways, it's nice to see companies move to use mostly open source infrastructure, a lot of it coming from CNCF (https://landscape.cncf.io), ASF and other organizations out there (on top of the random things on github).
I don't see that on https://landscape.lfai.foundation/. Also, I don't see a space for Code or IDE tooling the Linux Foundation page. ai-infra.fun contains TabNine and Tabby.
Would things like TabNine and Tabby make sense on the Linux Foundation one? Would love to collaborate on this!
https://landscape.lfai.foundation
They have graduated levels like CNCF :)
https://landscape.lfai.foundation
Would love to collaborate with the author of this as I help run CNCF/LF landscape infrastructure.