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bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

cpursley · 10 months ago

Nonsense, there was no call.

Blowing some shit up in the grey zone (or even Kursk) is one thing - his state hasn’t been threatened in any real way (which is their nuke threshold policy).

However, lobbing western made (and make no mistake, western operated) weapons into their internationally recognized territory is an entirely different ballgame.

bogle · 10 months ago

Reuters [1]. Don't be an idiot.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/has-putin-threatened-us...

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

DeathArrow · 10 months ago

So you really think more than half of the Americans are mentally impaired? The probability of being mentally impaired is higher for a random poster like you than for half of American people.

bogle · 10 months ago

Your understanding of statistics is deplorable. Also, your reading ability. I specifically said it's racism, rather than the (verifiable) lack of intelligence.

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

lelanthran · 10 months ago

> It's racism that must be constantly pointed out, that people must be educated about, and racism should be rooted out when found.

As I pointed out in a different post, trying to shame people into silence doesn't magically change their vote.

Unfortunately, when you are going to call every Rep supporter a racist with no evidence other than who they voted for, they are going to stop answering your polls honestly.

Still not gonna change their vote though...

bogle · 10 months ago

Racists don't need shaming into silence. They need to understand what's wrong with their beliefs.

Going back to the original quote, you need to see that it's not calling all voters a particular thing. There's a simple Venn diagram, one circle of racists inside a larger circle of a particular block of voters.

Educating people out of racism, and removing racism from your society, will change votes as racism is only one aspect of a person's beliefs.

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

econ40432 · 10 months ago

Engineering students are actually more conservative than a group like communications majors. Are communications majors smarter?

bogle · 10 months ago

I was moving the point away from a measure of smartness to one of racism. I do hope you haven't just damned all the other engineers on HN!

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

bakugo · 10 months ago

Yes, yes, we know. Democracy is over, America is doomed, he's going to start a nuclear war and kill us all, etc.

That's what you all said the last time he was elected.

bogle · 10 months ago

Your hyperbole aside, you imply that his last term was good, rather than poor. I'm asking about HN's collective opinion, which you've contributed to, thank you, but not, perhaps, in the way you thought you were.

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

lelanthran · 10 months ago

> Pretty sure this would work with "Trump" instead of "Brexit".

What do you want racists to do? Not vote? They're gonna vote for somebody after all.

bogle · 10 months ago

No, they get a vote, obviously. You've focussed on the vote part of the quote when the important information was in the racism. It's racism that must be constantly pointed out, that people must be educated about, and racism should be rooted out when found. I'm not saying you support racism in any way, of course, I really don't think that. I just think you misunderstood what needs doing to prevent these unforced errors (Brexit was an unforced error of the UK government).

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

cpursley · 10 months ago

Avoiding nuclear holocaust was a disaster?

bogle · 10 months ago

MAD. It actually works. Putin has had his bluff called on this.

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

richrichardsson · 10 months ago

> I think the name-calling really hurt them.

This was also the biggest problem of the Remain camp pre-Brexit.

It was too easy to label Leavers as stupid/racist/xenophobic, and that was a huge mistake.

bogle · 10 months ago

Not everyone who voted for Brexit was a racist, but every racist voted for Brexit. - Bill Bragg

Pretty sure this would work with "Trump" instead of "Brexit".

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

bakugo · 10 months ago

Don't really care much about this election since I'm not a US citizen, but I decided to check out Bluesky as the results were coming in and it confirmed my long-time suspicion that roughly 99% of its users are far left American political activists.

Literally the entire discovery feed was post after post of said activists apparently suffering from legitimate mental breakdowns as if the entire world was crumbling around them.

bogle · 10 months ago

Hold that thought. HN Commentators, feel free to correct me if I've mis-read the room, but I think there are very few here who do not realise that Trump's presidency will go poorly for the USA and the rest of the world's democracies.

bogle commented on Trump wins presidency for second time thehill.com/homenews/camp... · Posted by u/koolba

baxuz · 10 months ago

Ok, let's take the nuanced route. Not all are stupid.

They're just more uneducated than ever, more conservative than ever, and idolizing dehumanization and evil totalitarians more than ever.

The root of everything is social insecurity and bad education, caused by the USA actually not being a country for its people but for corporations and billionaires.

I'm sorry but if you want a pathological liar, criminal and an overall horrible human being as a president of the (probably) most powerful and influential country in the world, you're just scum. Keep the downvotes coming.

bogle · 10 months ago

The inequality in a nation must have a huge effect on the nature of the people in that nation. That a treatise on inequality has won a Nobel prizes for economics would tend to support your thesis [1]. That another Nobel prize winner has also written on inequality should clinch it [2].

Fix inequality.

[1] https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/2015/dea... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stiglitz