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audinobs commented on We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness   newyorker.com/magazine/20... · Posted by u/defo10
IgorPartola · 23 days ago
I am not saying you are wrong but from what I understood that alcoholism and depression were quite prevalent in those times. Do you have sources for what you are saying?
audinobs · 23 days ago
People are seriously fucking delusional.

The wonderful life of a coal miner in 1890 lol. It is just a completely insane idea.

audinobs commented on We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness   newyorker.com/magazine/20... · Posted by u/defo10
hn_throwaway_99 · 23 days ago
I totally agree, though I'd like to frame OP's argument a little differently in a way that makes more sense I think.

I agree the "shit is just too expensive" is a pretty lame excuse. I think to back when I was a poor ballet dancer around college age, and we always found lots of cheap things to do - a lot of it was like you said, usually just going over to people's houses to hang out, or doing stuff in the city that was cheap or free. Going out to restaurants was a rare treat, and it was almost always a cheap dive place. I had to laugh about the comment about the expense of "8 oz cocktails" - we weren't drinking cocktails, we were drinking 6 packs of Natty Light in someone's studio apartment.

But what I think has changed is that it's so much easier to not be bored with modern tech, even if it makes you lonely. There is TikTok, YouTube, Netflix, multiplayer gaming, etc. It's just a lot easier to sit at home with these kinds of entertainment, so the "activation energy" required to go get up and plan things with friends just feels a lot higher.

audinobs · 23 days ago
You also can't separate the social media part of this. An expensive cocktail is a cool social media post, Natty light is not.

It is just a much more postmodern world than when I was young. There is a whole level of digital simulation on top of the activity that I never had to think about. The post about the expensive cocktail is the real social activity now.

We may as well be comparing dating on tinder to a rural barn dance in the 1950s. Technology has moved faster than our language as these aren't even the same activities but the words are the same. "Dating", "socializing".

audinobs commented on We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness   newyorker.com/magazine/20... · Posted by u/defo10
mgraczyk · 23 days ago
Your observations are limited, if you average over large enough an area you will see a different story
audinobs · 23 days ago
I think you are right but the expectations of young people are up much more.

These are all relative valuations with your pears and expectations. No one cares we are all vastly more wealthy than people living a 100 years ago.

People know how much Jamie Dimon is worth. No one cares they basically have more abundance today than JP Morgan himself.

It is also the difference that when I was in my 20s I had no illusions that I was going to become Michael Jackson or a popular TV sitcom actor since I never danced, sang or acted. Now though you do have that anxiety since people your own age are famous and wealthy from nothing more than network effects.

When I was in my 20s the only people that seemed to have disposable income were drug dealers lol. It was easy to not feel anxiety that I wasn't as well off as a drug dealer.

audinobs commented on We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness   newyorker.com/magazine/20... · Posted by u/defo10
mgraczyk · 23 days ago
This isn't true in the US.

Young people in US consume much more of those things you listed than people over 40 did at the same age. Young people have more purchasing power than previous generations.

EDIT: Data from the fed and payroll providers show this overwhelmingly to be the case, but just to add some color/anecdote.

I found all of the first jobs I had in highschool and just after. 3/3 of my first roles now advertise a minimum salary over twice what I was paid 14-18 years ago. Prices have gone up around 20-30% since then overall so I would have had 40% more purchasing power today with the same jobs.

audinobs · 23 days ago
That is because there has been tremendous stagnation in wages outside of software in the middle. Huge compression between the middle and min wage.

My first job as a cook pays basically the same as what my first processional job pays now. It was a huge win for me at the time and now would have been no raise at all.

I think this is expressed in the jump in housing prices since covid too. So young people have better purchasing power besides for the one thing everyone wants.

audinobs commented on The AI age is the "age of no consent"   productpicnic.beehiiv.com... · Posted by u/BallsInIt
PicassoCTs · 23 days ago
The social darwinistic view is just a mental protection mechanism against responsibility. Its like calluses but for the careless.
audinobs · 23 days ago
Social darwnism is about getting paid.

As an IT professional I don't have to put up with grave injustices like less than optimal rent seeking for myself and friends.

Whatever decision I come to is basically the results of a science experiment. Of course, the results of the experiment just prove I am always right. If the results proved otherwise then obviously there was something flawed in the method and design of the experiment.

Science is the method that proves what my friends and I thought all along was not just true but to think otherwise proves you are an immoral person. Unlike my friends and I that the experiments prove we are the good guys.

If this wasn't true, my salary would be much less. "the market is always right"

audinobs commented on The AI age is the "age of no consent"   productpicnic.beehiiv.com... · Posted by u/BallsInIt
UltraSane · 24 days ago
Whatever happened to the mantra "Information wants to be free"
audinobs · 23 days ago
Market fundamentalism is what happened.

Information wants to be ? How naive.

Information wants to be commoditized, but that process is amoral unless I am getting a cut as a rent seeker.

If I am getting paid then it is just a form of darwinism and to think otherwise is to be anti-science.

If someone else is getting paid then obviously whatever we are talking about is a great injustice.

audinobs commented on Tour de France confronts a new threat: Are cyclists using tiny motors?   washingtonpost.com/world/... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
cujo · a month ago
it's a safe bet that your big money sports (not cycling) have a lot more doping than cycling. the issue is that you can't report what you don't know.

* cycling is a mix of moderate money and lots of drug testing. there are significant incentives to dope, but it's fairly hard to do these days since there is a lot of testing.

* big money sports (in the us especially - nfl, mlb, nba) are the jokes of the testing world. they rarely test and often inform their athletes when a test is coming. the big money basically assures that the incentive to dope is also big. but you'll never get caught if the testing process is a joke, so there is nothing to report.

audinobs · a month ago
Anyone who thinks cycling of all sports is clean is a total fool.

It is a sport literally built around doping. You can't take things to the Tour De France level and recover from those workouts without drugs. Beating the test is part of the sport.

In the NFL/NBA, drug testing is just a theatrical performance. I know in the NFL because careers are so short, the players basically have a gentleman's agreement that whatever you have to do to stay on the field is fair game.

Cycling though is just such a sport of watts per kilo there is no way around doping being a huge variable.

The stupidest thing to me is every player basically says they will do everything they can to win , no matter what the sport. Everything but the thing that will help them the most in PEDs. For some reason the public just wants to believe this bullshit.

audinobs commented on GLM-4.5: Reasoning, Coding, and Agentic Abililties   z.ai/blog/glm-4.5... · Posted by u/GaggiX
drakenot · a month ago
The commentary around every Chinese model is incredibly disappointing. Asking about Tiananmen Square isn't some clever insight.

Look at the political leanings that government-backed AIs in the United States will soon be required to reflect: those of the current administration.

I was hoping to hear from people reporting on their utility or coding capabilities instead.

audinobs · a month ago
It is especially stupid because there is nothing analogous to Tiananmen Square in the west.

On the other hand, have it write a dirty joke. It just wrote me a few jokes that silicon value wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

Not sure about the utility overall though. The chain of thought seems incredibly slow on things that Sonnet would have done in a few seconds from my limited testing.

audinobs commented on GPT might be an information virus (2023)   nonint.com/2023/03/09/gpt... · Posted by u/3willows
sho_hn · a month ago
What's weird is that so many people shrug this off with "eh, it's what they said about the calculator".

Which to me is roughly as bad a take as "LLMs are just fancy auto-complete" was.

I feel it's worth reminding ourselves that evolution on the planet has rarely opted for human-level intelligence and that we possess it might just be a quirk we shouldn't take for granted; it may well be that we could accidentally habituate and eventually breed outselves dumber and subsist fine (perhaps in different numbers), never realizing what we willingly gave up.

audinobs · a month ago
I don't know or really care what other people are doing with LLMs.

I have learned so much the past 2.5 years it is almost hard to believe.

To say I am getting dumber is just completely preposterous.

Maybe this would be leading me astray if I had the intelligence of Paul Dirac and I wasn't fully applying my intelligence. The problem is I don't have anything like the intelligence of Paul Dirac.

audinobs commented on Claude Code introduces specialized sub-agents   docs.anthropic.com/en/doc... · Posted by u/tekkertje
bomewish · a month ago
Has CC become much stupider in recent weeks, or is it me? Any anecdata out there?
audinobs · a month ago
I think it is like with a gambling game that you get on hot and cold streaks, runs based on chance.

The model feels like it has got stupid when you get on a cold streak after a hot hand.

u/audinobs

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