anotherangrydev (u/anotherangrydev)

anotherangrydev commented on Imba – A new programming language for the web imba.io/... · Posted by u/judofyr

techpeace · 11 years ago

WSDL/SOAP are not REST. I'm telling you that REST was popularized by Rails, because it was the first major web framework to use it. You've yet to refute that argument, but you do continue to be rude, so have a good one!

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

>WSDL/SOAP are not REST

Well if you define REST as "Web Apps developed with RoR" then I guess you're right, Rails is definiteley the pioneer of Rails development.

>You've yet to refute that argument

There was (at least) Tomcat deployed and quite popular, and yep, everything moved through REST interfaces. Even with that one and the huge success it had in the enterprise world, I wouldn't dare to say that the success of REST relies on Tomcat anyway.

REST hit it big with the www, www is REST's killer app. Those things are quite literally the first ones you should know when you start developing for the web.

anotherangrydev commented on Imba – A new programming language for the web imba.io/... · Posted by u/judofyr

techpeace · 11 years ago

Could you point me to a major web framework that used REST before Rails 1.2 (2006)?

> What the f* are you on? Or were you born a few years ago and just worked with Ruby since then?

I've been using Ruby professionally for 10 years.

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

2006? Come ON!

How about the whole WSDL/SOAP services that appeared way before that? You're telling me that Rails was the one who came out with the modern REST ideas?

That's total tech illiteracy right there. Damn, you even had the nerve to defend that feeble argument.

anotherangrydev commented on Imba – A new programming language for the web imba.io/... · Posted by u/judofyr

techpeace · 11 years ago

Here's a quick (incomplete) list of web innovations you can thank the Ruby community for either popularizing or inventing outright:

* REST * Many parts of ES.next * Front-end build tools * CSS pre-compilation * JS transpilation

I spent years happily using multi-line template strings while JS developers informed me how idiotic I was for using a transpiler. Since Ruby's goal is to be a language that brings joy to the user, I see nothing wrong with bringing that ethos to other languages. You yourself acknowledge the impact it had on the development of JavaScript.

We in the Ruby community will keep innovating, and you keep hoping that we'll stop, and we'll see which happens.

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

REST was either popularized or outright invented by Ruby?

What the f* are you on? Or were you born a few years ago and just worked with Ruby since then?

Really, how could somebody be so oblivious to this field in order to state stuff like that?

anotherangrydev commented on The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked krebsonsecurity.com/2015/... · Posted by u/panarky

dsacco · 11 years ago

This is a great comment, Thomas.

I had an argument with my girlfriend about this. No matter what reasoning I used, no matter what I said, she could not agree that it was wrong that Ashley Madison (A.M.) was hacked.

Her position was that marital infidelity is such a pubishable offense that the participants on A.M. deserve to be publicly outed. In her view, it was not even up for debate. She felt so powerfully about infidelity that she didn't care.

My girlfriend is not a luddite, but she's also not an engineer. She isn't a programmer, doesn't work in tech, and is not particularly invested in ethical conversations about privacy. When I told her that hacking and outing people on a website because they do something you disagree with is playing God, she didn't seem to be phased at all. It was worth it. That this line of thinking could be used for things she did not agree with was not something I could convince her of. She simply values, in a somewhat totalitarian way, the justice inflicted on these people beyond her own right to privacy (or theirs).

My point here is that you can't convince someone this is unethical behavior if they are emotionally invested in it. I think it's disgusting that this is making the rounds on Twitter. But I don't think you could ever convince people they are being hypocritical. They simply enjoy having something to dislike, especially if it fits in their ideological conception of the world.

I think this is a strong parallel to the privacy violations with regards to the NSA. You can't convince people that it's wrong if they have elevated their own ethical crusade beyond their right to something such as privacy.

Sorry to hijack this comment with NSA.

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

Tell her that two wrongs never make a right.

anotherangrydev commented on Data from hack of Ashley Madison cheater site purportedly dumped online arstechnica.com/security/... · Posted by u/coloneltcb

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

Even if it were a database of known murderers (or sex offenders , or whatever crime you consider to be the worst), it is still private information. So it's a shame that those 'hackers' got away with it.

anotherangrydev commented on Show HN: Tonic – A data visualizing REPL for Node.js tonicdev.com... · Posted by u/boucher

boucher · 11 years ago

We use docker pretty extensively, and so between each code cell we can evaluate the layered filesystem docker provides for changes and save them.

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

Good, thanks.

anotherangrydev commented on Show HN: Tonic – A data visualizing REPL for Node.js tonicdev.com... · Posted by u/boucher

boucher · 11 years ago

Yup. The time travel stuff is somewhat transparent and hard to talk about. If you think of the document as a .js file, than it is pretty easy to reason about what will happen. Things are just executed in order. The magic is that we don't have to re-execute a bunch of stuff every time just to get to your actual change.

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

Do you override 'require('fs')' or do you do some magic at the OS level ?

anotherangrydev commented on Show HN: Tonic – A data visualizing REPL for Node.js tonicdev.com... · Posted by u/boucher

tolmasky · 11 years ago

Hey guys, @boucher, @rentzsch and I are happy to get this out there, we are around if you have any questions!

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

I was impressed by the Time Travel.

If I delete a file through there, and "go back in time" would the files would still be there?

anotherangrydev commented on Multiple Vulnerabilities in Pocket gnu.gl/blog/Posts/multipl... · Posted by u/ers35

detaro · 11 years ago

They aren't part of Mozilla.

anotherangrydev · 11 years ago

Don't be so naive. Do you think you can just walk up to Mozilla and tell them: "Sup guys, just bundle this crap into your browser. Please."?