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TRDRVR commented on Colorectal cancer incidence in teens up 300% since 1999   news.ddw.org/news/alarmin... · Posted by u/tompccs
paulddraper · 2 years ago
> relatively dense meaty quads and femurs between the thigh and colon

While it in now way changes the conclusion, quads are on the front of the leg; many people carry it in their back pocket.

TRDRVR · 2 years ago
People sit on their phones?
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TRDRVR · 2 years ago
I’ve heard a lot of denialists push the Tonga volcano and resultant water vapor in the stratosphere as evidence that climate change is more complex than we understand.

I always whole heartedly agree that it’s very complex, but we do know introducing novel gases to various parts of the atmosphere is generally chaotic and something to be avoided when we can.

TRDRVR commented on Colorectal cancer incidence in teens up 300% since 1999   news.ddw.org/news/alarmin... · Posted by u/tompccs
Qem · 2 years ago
Cellphone use? Colon position is close to pocket height, where our cellphones tend to stay while not charging or being actively manipulated. Someone should try to correlate tumor starting location with handedness. If it tends to start the same side the dominant hand is, that would be a smoking gun.
TRDRVR · 2 years ago
Everyone here is complaining about the nature of the proposed natural experiment and I’m just here thinking “where are the pockets on OP’s clothes?”

Phones are stored primarily in front pockets that are nowhere near the colon in terms of biology (almost everyone has relatively dense meaty quads and femurs between the thigh and colon) or the inverse square law.

TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
zug_zug · 2 years ago
Dude it was your source. Take the L and don't cite sources you haven't read going forward.
TRDRVR · 2 years ago
Please don't make personal attacks like that on this forum, it's against the rules.

So is claiming someone didn't read a source when you disagree with their interpretation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
CoastalCoder · 2 years ago
Speaking as an Irishman, please be comforted to know that I truly don't care about the original meaning (whatever it truly was) of the phrase.
TRDRVR · 2 years ago
As someone else who doesn't deal in identity politics, please know I don't care what you think of it and was trying to share information on a forum for the intellectually curious.
TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
arduanika · 2 years ago
Hmm, so if you're interested in my answer, I guess I would ask you how you want to proceed. Do we want to accept that OED is an trustworthy catalog of etymological facts, or not? If not, why? Do you think the quotes it pulls from the 1700's are fabricated? Do you think it's suppressing an earlier usage of "pale of settlement"? What is your claim, exactly?

You're the one whose source was quoting from OED, so you tell me. It'll be easier if we're starting from a shared ground truth.

TRDRVR · 2 years ago
No I just think all those quotes reference colonization.

Many people believe that specifically the Irish Pale popularized the statement, but the OED aren't among them.

What are we disagreeing about?

TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
DiggyJohnson · 2 years ago
And who cares if it was? I don't see a movement of the Irish to eradicate this phrase.
TRDRVR · 2 years ago
Isn't this a forum for the intellectually curious?

I made no call to action.

I guess I should have known any time the information is something certain people would consider 'woke' it elicits a strong emotional reaction beyond the information itself.

My bad.

TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
wrs · 2 years ago
Also from the article: a “pale” is a fence. “Beyond the pale” used to require a suffix (e.g., “beyond the pale of reason”) but eventually by itself started to be short for “beyond the pale of acceptable behavior”.
TRDRVR · 2 years ago
And what were those fences specifically used for pray tell.
TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
justin_oaks · 2 years ago
Just a periodic reminder that the origin or words or phrases doesn't have bearing on their meaning today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy

TRDRVR · 2 years ago
Incorrect from a formal logic standpoint.

It doesn't necessarily have bearing, but you cannot generalize the way you are doing.

Then no word would mean anything.

TRDRVR commented on The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'   bbc.com/worklife/article/... · Posted by u/mooreds
selwoot · 2 years ago
That's the exact opposite of what the link you included says.

From https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/12/beyond-the-pale.h...

As for the relationship between the two expressions, the OED has this to say:

“The theory that the origin of the phrase [‘beyond the pale’] relates to any of several specific regions, such as the area of Ireland formerly called the Pale … or the Pale of Settlement in Russia … is not supported by the early historical evidence and is likely to be a later rationalization.”

TRDRVR · 2 years ago
You have successfully repeated the opinion of the Oxford English Dictionary after reading an entire article about how the British used Pales to colonize areas and define boundaries, but I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as you want it to be.

u/TRDRVR

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