We've asked you before not to engage in personal attacks like this. Please stop.
Could you tell me what personal attack that would be?
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SomeStupidPoint commented on Integrating “safe” languages into OpenBSD? marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc... · Posted by u/dmm
> You should refrain from posting comments like you did here -- they make the community worse. You should also reconsider how you provide tech support, in general.
So an actively hostile comment in response to an opinionated one is somehow better and not measurably worse? You could just as easily have a discussion on why they think it objectively sucks, and you both may learn something from it.
I actually outlined why I thought they were wrong, and shut your mouth is clearly attached to not making subjective statements about other people's belongings (which, I absolutely stand by as inappropriate) -- so yes, an angry but on-point comment is better than just throwing out "lolsux" uselessly, or in the case above, based on wrong information.
SomeStupidPoint commented on Integrating “safe” languages into OpenBSD? marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc... · Posted by u/dmm
> Firstly, shut your mouth
> You should refrain from posting comments like you did here -- they make the community worse.
I don't even know what to say.
That you disagree with my assessment that angry lead-ins to detailed responses to people insulting your things are appropriate, but feel insulting other people's belongings (while providing incorrect and useless tech advice) is appropriate -- or even constructive?
Because that's what you did say. (:
I (as you mighy expect) disagree with your assessment of what makes a functional community.
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SomeStupidPoint commented on Integrating “safe” languages into OpenBSD? marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc... · Posted by u/dmm
If I say "You have a big nose, it makes you ugly" as the first line in my email, it may well be a "statement of fact" and yet still be a personal attack. Your implication that a statement of fact cannot be a personal attack is untrue.
Whether the OP has or has not written Posix utilities in rust is of no relevance to the actual argument whatsoever, it is just a way to have a dig at the OP.
The second part of your example is a statement of opinion, not fact -- so it's not really the same thing at all.
SomeStupidPoint commented on Integrating “safe” languages into OpenBSD? marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc... · Posted by u/dmm
He has a point though... As we get more CPU/ram we as programmers don't even bother to check how many resources we are using. Personally, I don't know whether its a good thing or a bad thing.
Also in terms of systems languages I believe only rust has some potential to truly replace C. Although, a large part of C usage still takes place in the embedded world where rust has yet to be ported to many embedded processors. Go's GC makes it a show stopper for use in many places as for haskell I would be very interested to see more low level embedded programming going on in it.
I run full Windows 10 on a tablet (dual core, 2GB RAM), and it's pretty amazing to me how many websites that have no reason to run slow completely fail on it.
I can only imagine it works fine on dev machines with much faster quad+ cores and 64GB of RAM or whatever.
Just as an aside, it's done a lot to have the tablet be my primary "fiddle-at-home" machine: keeps me really conscious of resource limits, including ones I normally don't think of like screen size. (Most websites render terribly in landscape on a 10" tablet.)
SomeStupidPoint commented on Taking Children Seriously fallibleideas.com/taking-... · Posted by u/monort
The Coding Horror blog has a great piece on how the book How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk helped him out with a lot more than just his kids.
Excellent blog post!
And if anyone is looking for the book (like I was), this seems to be a more recent edition (with better availability):
https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Kids-Will-Listen/dp/14516638...
It isn't a binary decision and it is incredibly dishonest for you to frame it like it is. Freedom of expression is not foundational. Certainly inciting violence, advocating genocide, or engaging in targeted and repeated harassment does not fall under the auspice of an unalienable and foundational right. In consenting to governance and inclusion in society one forfeits some absolute freedom that society has deemed unacceptable. That is the nature of society. The argument should lie in what and how society deems things acceptable because there is certainly a debate to be had there. Concerns about oppressive governments or censorship of thought are valid and just but do not and should not require declaring expression limitless. Society has deemed some expression harmful and participating in society requires accepting that. I believe it is a good thing that there are things society has deemed unacceptable and acknowledge that I give up some of my absolute freedoms to live in such a society.
Society is not a force of nature such that its decrees carry the weight of natural law.
People can (and often should) resist what society decrees, because it's only through that dynamic tension of conflicting forces in society that we can reasonably advance.
> I believe it is a good thing that there are things society has deemed unacceptable and acknowledge that I give up some of my absolute freedoms to live in such a society.
You buried the lede -- your whole post is really dressing up why we shouldn't resist a societal decision you personally heavily agree with, while not giving real credence to people who disagree with you.
Pitching society-uber-als when society has made the choice you like is really cheap partisanship.
> Freedom of expression is not foundational. Certainly inciting violence, advocating genocide, or engaging in targeted and repeated harassment does not fall under the auspice of an unalienable and foundational right.
These are also things on which many people radically disagree with you. Stating them as facts is just begging the question.
I agree. A lot of this drama can be avoided if we just all act like adults.
Sure, if you force people to behave a certain way, the conflict can be avoided.
The problem stems from the fundamental fact that a very small percentage of people are assholes, a faction of people are intent on forcibly silencing and harming assholes for being assholes, and a faction of people are intent on not permitting that second group of people to do so.
That's the problem: two groups of people are prepared to use force to enact their contrary visions, while a third (relatively small group) is catalyzing the conflict.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I'm not going to stop responding in reasonable, human, and direct ways to comments.
I'm also going to note, yet again, your highly biased enforcement:
Nothing to someone who did insult me, just random dog-piling based on your whims because you happened to notice an emotional outburst.
That's terrible community management.