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SideQuark commented on What is a color space?   makingsoftware.com/chapte... · Posted by u/vinhnx
AlienRobot · a day ago
This is a great article about the topic! It covers everything.

But can someone explain this to me?

>Light is technically something called electromagnetic radiation and it has a frequency and wavelength. That wavelength can vary, depending on the energy of the wave. High energy waves have a higher frequency and shorter wavelength, and low energy waves have a lower frequency and longer wavelength.

>This means that the same amount of energy at different wavelengths will not be perceived as the same brightness. For example, a light with a wavelength of 555 nm (green) will appear brighter than a light with a wavelength of 450 nm (blue) even if they have the same energy.

The article asserts that the wavelength (thus color) changes with the amount of energy, but then it says that you can have light of different wavelengths (color) with "the same energy."

SideQuark · 11 hours ago
He confuses two different places there is energy. Light is made (this is a little bit of a cheat) of photons. Each photon has a wavelength λ, and a per photon energy E where E = hc/λ, h is Plank's constant and c is the speed of light constant. So energy and wavelength per photon completely determines each other (and the color of the light of that single photon).

These energies are very small. You can add a lot of photons per second, increasing the brightness of that color, and this now has the energy per second of all those photons. So you can have a lot of red photons which sum to some energy, or a different number of blue photons that sums to (very, very close) the total red energy.

These are the two energies he confuses in those two places.

SideQuark commented on Did California's fast food minimum wage reduce employment?   nber.org/papers/w34033... · Posted by u/lxm
benbayard · 15 days ago
You are correct that I was unable to summarize an incredibly complex tangled web of economics, sociology and politics in a few hundred words on a forum. I don't think any of us can do this. Of course it's an oversimplification. Is the comment I'm replying to also not doing this? Are you also not doing the same thing?

My only point is that this seems like an awful lot of confirmation bias. Something everyone suffers from.

SideQuark · 11 days ago
Not all people suffer the same level of confirmation bias, especially across all topics. And, for most topics, broad consensus of experts is better and less biased than individuals.
SideQuark commented on Did California's fast food minimum wage reduce employment?   nber.org/papers/w34033... · Posted by u/lxm
StevenWaterman · 17 days ago
If the total salary has gone up, for less work done, it is a positive change. You can solve the inequal distribution via taxes and benefits.

Start: 100 people paid $100

After minimum wage change: 90 people paid $125, 10 people paid $0

After tax increase: 90 people paid $113 + $12 taxes, 10 people paid $108 from taxes

Now everyone is paid at least as much as they were before, and fewer people are forced to perform labour

In practice it was only 3% unemployment not 10%, which means the tax increase is less and there is more of an incentive to continue working. You can also pay the displaced workers less than their original wage, to reach an equilibrium where everyone is happy with either work+more money, or leisure+less money. Or have it be age-based with an earlier retirement. Or have people work part-time.

We need to stop seeing having a job as being inherently good. Being able to live is good. Humanity should strive for 100% unemployment.

SideQuark · 15 days ago
Paying more for less is never a positive change, it's an inefficiency that is costing someone and resulting in less goods for society. It's a net loss. That money paying for less is now not being spent where it was before, making that place lose out.
SideQuark commented on Did California's fast food minimum wage reduce employment?   nber.org/papers/w34033... · Posted by u/lxm
tialaramex · 17 days ago
Also low minimum wages are actually just corporate welfare.

The gap between what a minimum wage job pays and what it costs to scrape by is covered by government or charity, if they didn't do that the workers would die, which means the jobs don't get done, so that means the resource spent by governments or charities as a result of a low minimum wage is a subsidy for the employer. Instead of paying what it costs they get it for cheaper to create a fiction of "employment".

SideQuark · 15 days ago
No, it's not corporate welfare. Min wage hikes mean those workers unable to add that much value don't have jobs anymore, are left out of a workforce and thus cannot gain skills, and now require actual welfare.

Requiring companies to pay more than value added by an employee simply fire those workers.

The purpose of govt is to provide assistance, and perhaps training, so those on min wage can gain experience and skills to move up.

Min wage is merely an entrance wage into jobs.

SideQuark commented on Did California's fast food minimum wage reduce employment?   nber.org/papers/w34033... · Posted by u/lxm
benbayard · 17 days ago
Is your usual breakfast spot a location with more than 60 locations? The minimum wage increase here only applied to chains with more than 60 locations. A lot of what you're describing is nation-wide. Food is more expensive everywhere. Cost of living in California is up significantly. Rents for restaurants is significantly higher as well (at least anecdotally, my wife's family restaurant has to close because they doubled the rent after their lease was up, I have heard this is incredible common).

This study by UC Berkeley attributed a 3.7% increase in food price because of the minimum wage changes. It's quite likely that food overall getting more expensive is responsible for a lot of what you're seeing.

If we can't afford to pay people in California a wage where they can live here, then maybe the economy overall isn't sustainable? A $20 minimum wage is like $2800 take home per month and in many places that can barely cover rent.

SideQuark · 15 days ago
Min wage forced on some places forces other companies to compete for workers, so your argument is missing important facts.
SideQuark commented on Employee – CEO pay gap historically wide   cnn.com/2025/07/23/busine... · Posted by u/e12e
cycomanic · a month ago
Nobody is talking about the leader of some charity in the middle of Kansas when saying CEO pay (even though they are technically a CEO). You also ignore the main part of my comment that the majority (~70%) of CEO compensation is stock so not included in wage comparisons.

I'm also not sure in what world you live, but the effective tax rates for most of the wealthiest are effectively 0 [1] , compare that to the tax rate of an average wage earner.

The final point is that ratio of CEO pay to average salary pay has skyrocketed [2] . How do you explain that away?

[1] https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trov...

[2] https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2023/

SideQuark · a month ago
The first article ludicrously confuses income (taxable) with wealth (not taxable) and unrealized gains (not taxable). It mixes cherry picking with proper data.

I already pointed out the answer to your "how do you explain..." question above.

If you want to argue about taxes take the time to understand them.

SideQuark commented on Employee – CEO pay gap historically wide   cnn.com/2025/07/23/busine... · Posted by u/e12e
thefz · a month ago
> US tax system is the most progressive in the OECD [1]

Except that being paid in shares is not really calculated as a pay and top levels borrow money from banks with shares as a collateral so basically they pay zero taxes on their income. Even kids know that.

SideQuark · a month ago
I guess kids don't know how to read or the Internet then.

Simply google "do ceos pay taxes on shares" and you'll see plenty of places making it clear they do. Part of my income at several places has been in shares, and they're always taxed.

Borrowing against assets isn't taxed for anyone, as it's not income, whether it's a common homeowner getting a mortgage, a person spending on a credit card, or any other loan.

Zero of this affects the facts I linked. And your claims are demonstrably wrong.

Even kids know that.

SideQuark commented on Employee – CEO pay gap historically wide   cnn.com/2025/07/23/busine... · Posted by u/e12e
cycomanic · a month ago
Note that this is mean wage not compensation, specifically it does not include stock bonuses [1]. Considering that the high CEO compensation is almost exclusively based on equity (there are several famous cases of CEOs taking only $1 of wage), arguments based on wage are pretty meaningless.

Also, I highly suspect that even if we take the ratio of top 1% CEOs compared to top 1% of non-executive employees the picture would not change dramatically (unfortunately I can't find easily accessible information).

[1] https://www.bls.gov/oes/oes_ques.htm

SideQuark · a month ago
Taking the top 1% would certainly lower the gap, which shows had misleading or dishonest this invalid comparison is.

Also note mean wage is also not total compensation by a long shot. The actual benefits are tracked by BLS total compensation, or better yet, BLS cost to employ, which has grown a lot of the past few decades. The biggest tax breaks (or as people like to call them when it suits them, tax giveaways or tax loopholes) give more to the poor and middle class than all the tax breaks enjoyed by all companies combined: mortgage deduction, 401k style deferred taxes, and employer healthcare deduction, all give massive breaks the majority of which accrues to the poor and middle, yet this also gets ignored in this discussion.

No matter how you want to slice it comparing the top 500 out of 250K to all is simply bad stats, as bas as claiming the top 500 wage employees to all CEOs would show every day earners have a gap over CEOs. And it's simply designed to create outrage - that CEO taking less pay is not going to suddenly accrue to the workers.

So no matter how you want to slice it, it's completely bad stats.

SideQuark commented on Employee – CEO pay gap historically wide   cnn.com/2025/07/23/busine... · Posted by u/e12e
Kapura · a month ago
damn, if only it were possible to pass laws that make rewarding individuals increasingly unattractive as the individual rewards increased. some sort of progressive taxation scheme, perhaps. if only such a thing could exist!
SideQuark · a month ago
US tax system is the most progressive in the OECD [1]

US top tiny amount of incomes pay vastly more, even per dollar earned, than in any other first world country, where middle and lower class pay a much larger share.

Around the bottom 50% of US taxpayers pay zero federal income tax, and after post tax transfers (aid, etc...) the lowest decent sized chunk get money back, i.e., negative federal income tax.

Then, after already covering the vast majority of US tax burden, the really wealthy end up paying another large chunk in estate taxes (and no, there isn't magic sauce where they all hide all assets in foreign lands - you can simply go over public IRS data, or CBO data and see).

Here's historical effective rates by quintile. Bottom two were 9.3% and 15.0%, top 27.1% in 1979, in 2019 they were 0.6%, 8.9%, 19.3% top 1% remains over 30%. https://taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/historical-average-fe...

How much more progressive is enough?

https://www.cbpp.org/research/what-do-oecd-data-really-show-...

SideQuark commented on Employee – CEO pay gap historically wide   cnn.com/2025/07/23/busine... · Posted by u/e12e
whatshisface · a month ago
The statistic in the article compares average CEO pay to the median income, which is not driven by company-to-company differences in category of labor.
SideQuark · a month ago
> The statistic in the article compares average CEO pay to the median income

No, it compares the top 500 CEO pay out of 250k+ CEOs to all workers, which is as ludicrous and misleading as comparing the top 500 worker pay to all 250k CEOs and thinking this is the useful metric to rage about.

u/SideQuark

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