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Rimpinths commented on What to know about the stock market (2007)   betterexplained.com/artic... · Posted by u/HerrMonnezza
khold_stare · 4 years ago
I greatly enjoy Michael Lewis and his books, but Flash boys was extremely inaccurate, full of factual errors. I've worked in the finance industry, in HFT at one of the firms mentioned in the book. I joined around the time Flash Boys came out, and it was required reading in the firm. Here are some points:

- Michael Lewis really only got one side of the story - that of Brad Katsuyama, who had a vested interest in casting HFT players in a bad light to promote his own business - building the new exchange IEX.

- Brad also blamed HFTs for systems at RBC failing to make massive trades like they used to. There was nothing nefarious here - RBC had just fallen behind the time in technology, like trying to send a Fax in a world where everyone already uses Email. If Brad, or RBC, or RBC software engineers picked up the phone and called any of the exchanges, they would probably gladly update them on the industry and save them all the work of re-discovering it themselves.

- The claims about front-running are completely false. Front running would mean that a market maker somehow knows someone's orders at two different exchanges and somehow is able to "get in front of the line" or even know that those orders belong to the same person. This would mean the exchanges leak information or allow certain users "ahead of the queue". None of this is true. What Michael Lewis called front-running, was HFT firms reducing their risk on other exchanges when they would get traded against on one exchange. They did this without any knowledge that Brad Katsuyama was on the other end, or that he was just late trying to make the same trade at another exchange at a later time. There are no guarantees that you can make the same trade at different exchanges - the same rules apply to everybody.

- Unsurprisingly, IEX as an exchange is no different from others, in that they need market makers (a.k.a. HFTs) to provide liquidity on their exchange. I wrote the code for the FIX gateways to connect our firm to IEX, and it was all business as usual.

Rimpinths · 4 years ago
I work in the industry too and the things that people mislabel as "front running" is really aggravating. At worst, you could call it "order anticipating": using publicly available knowledge to figure out that if someone hit Exchange A and B, they're probably headed to Exchange C next. But they have no inside knowledge that the same party will in fact send an order to Exchange C next. They're taking a risk by anticipating that.

"Front running" as defined by the SEC has a more narrow definition. It basically means that you have a customer that has placed an order for XYZ and you aware of the order, but you placed your own order to be executed in front them, thus forcing them to buy it from you at a higher price than if their order was executed first. HFTs are not "front running" anybody.

Rimpinths commented on What to know about the stock market (2007)   betterexplained.com/artic... · Posted by u/HerrMonnezza
lordnacho · 4 years ago
Well, that is how a basic orderbook works.

But US markets have some special Reg-NMS rules that glue together things across exchanges. Being from Europe I'm not so familiar with it, but I understand it causes some interesting games to be played.

If you want to actually understand how the market works, there's a fair bit more reading to do.

Rimpinths · 4 years ago
Great point, and you understand the American stock market better than most Americans. This article was true about 20 years ago, but the author is completely wrong when he says this:

"A single market to trade. All stocks for Microsoft (MSFT), are traded on the NASDAQ exchange. All stocks for Ford (F) are on the NYSE."

MSFT and F both traded on 16 difference stock exchanges, not to mention countless "dark pools", each with their own book of bids and offers. But there's a national best bid-offer (NBBO) that all exchanges must respect, so it can behave like a single market. That's what Reg-NMS is about. The benefits of having several exchanges competing each other, while trying to retain the benefits of single market. This is also where HFT enters the picture with latency arbitrage and other trading strategies when prices on those markets get out of sync.

20 years ago, you could say that MSFT only trades on NASDAQ, but that hasn't been true since Reg NMS came into effect in 2005. Each stock has a primary listing market that controls things like halts and opening/closing auctions, but the stock can be traded on any exchange, each with its own dynamics.

Rimpinths commented on Multitasking hurts performance and may even damage the brain (2018)   linkedin.com/pulse/why-su... · Posted by u/tracyhenry
slver · 4 years ago
Yup. The key is to find combinations of activities that don't conflict with each other.

I also can work and breathe at the same time (neat trick). /s

Rimpinths · 4 years ago
Right. I love to listen to music while coding, but I couldn't listen to a podcast. I've tried, but I can't write words and listen to words at the same time. But music is no problem.
Rimpinths commented on Why Do High-Frequency Traders Cancel So Many Orders?   bloombergview.com/article... · Posted by u/yummyfajitas
CyberDildonics · 10 years ago
Fragmented exchanges are better for everyone except for high frequency traders. Then they actually have to do low latency arbitration to make money instead of full on front running like they do now.

Arbitration between physical locations is something that can't be helped. The other things ways that high frequency traders make money can be helped by better systems, but there are no incentives to make those systems when exchanges make so much of their money from high frequency traders themselves.

Rimpinths · 10 years ago
Some HFT strategies depend on fragmented exchanges. Look up "latency arbitrage" for examples.
Rimpinths commented on Why Do High-Frequency Traders Cancel So Many Orders?   bloombergview.com/article... · Posted by u/yummyfajitas
mkinitcpio · 10 years ago
Ah, I read that but didn't parse it as the author trying to make the distinction between (misnamed) "front-running" and actual front-running.

Probably still worth pointing out, since one of the activities is illegal and harmful (uses non-public information) and the other is just reacting quickly to the public market information.

Rimpinths · 10 years ago
I've seen this type of behavior described as "order anticipation", which I think is a much better term. "Front running" means that you are using confidential information that an order will be submitted. "Order anticipation" means that are you using public information and you are anticipating that an order will be submitted.
Rimpinths commented on How I Hacked Amazon’s $5 WiFi Button   medium.com/@edwardbenson/... · Posted by u/hodgesmr
Rimpinths · 10 years ago
Does this remind anybody of the CueCat? Same story...subsidized hardware that hackers repurposed for other uses. I think the makers of CueCat tried to unsuccessfully sue the hackers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/89

Do the Amazon Dash buttons come with a license agreement? Has anyone read it to see if it prohibits these kinds of hacks?

Rimpinths commented on Amazon Is Now Worth More Than Wal-Mart   blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015... · Posted by u/ryanmonroe
gdw2 · 10 years ago
But these 'off-payroll' entities in the Amazon ecosystem are not included in the Amazon market cap.
Rimpinths · 10 years ago
But they are comparing sales per employee, not market cap per employee.
Rimpinths commented on The Fire phone debacle   fastcompany.com/3039887/u... · Posted by u/czr80
andrewmutz · 11 years ago
It is extremely difficult for large organizations to create the sort of innovative leaps that startups can create.

Amazon is attempting to do this. They have been successful in many different ways, but for every winner they create they need to create multiple losers. The fire phone seems to be one of these losers, but time will tell.

I really admire Amazon's tolerance for failure. Most large companies would never take such risks.

Rimpinths · 11 years ago
What you should really admire is Amazon's shareholders' tolerance for failure. A lot more companies would be more likely to take big risks like Amazon if their shareholders would tolerate year after year of losses. Time will tell if they are stupid or admirable.
Rimpinths commented on Widespread sex differences in gene expression in the human brain (2013)   nature.com/ncomms/2013/13... · Posted by u/crassus
sjtrny · 12 years ago
Citation needed
Rimpinths · 12 years ago
I'm reluctant to get involved in the politically incorrect side of this argument, but FWIW, that stat comes from "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns", which was a paper published in the mid-90s by the American Psychological Association (in response to the controversial book "The Bell Curve").

From the paper:

"The differential between the mean intelligence test scores of Blacks and Whites (about one standard deviation, although it may be diminishing) does not result from any obvious biases in test construction and administration, nor does it simply reflect differences in socio-economic status. Explanations based on factors of caste and culture may be appropriate, but so far have little direct empirical support. There is certainly no such support for a genetic interpretation. At present, no one knows what causes this differential."

Rimpinths commented on Amazon to Raise Fees as Revenue Disappoints   nytimes.com/2014/01/31/te... · Posted by u/lukeqsee
RandallBrown · 12 years ago
I'm not sure if I've ever actually paid $80 for prime.

I got it originally for free as a college student, then they kept giving me half off discounts when it was time to renew. I don't know what I paid last time I renewed.

Even at $120 I'll still pay for it. It's an awesome service and I get way more than $120 value out of it. I never watched their videos either, but Betas and Alpha House are actually pretty good.

Rimpinths · 12 years ago
They boasted that they signed up 1 million new Prime members in the 3rd week of December. I wonder how many of those people signed up for the free trial with the intention of cancelling before the end of the free month? I know that's exactly what I did last year when I still needed to buy a few more presents a couple of weeks before Christmas.

u/Rimpinths

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