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ItalianPoetry commented on Surnames from nicknames nobody has any more   blog.plover.com/lang/etym... · Posted by u/JNRowe
aleksiy123 · a year ago
I believe some Ancient Roman names are also like this:

Male: Sextus, Septimus, Octavius, Nonus.

Female: Prima, Secunda, Tertia, Quarta, Quinta, Sexta, Octavia, Nona, and Decima

But on further investigation the males seem to actually be named after months https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/zshd6h/when_...

and the women are unclear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praenomen

ItalianPoetry · a year ago
I don't know about Ancient Romans, but I do know a few Italian men with numbered names. In particular a Decimo (tenth), who was indeed the tenth (and I wouldn't swear the last).

They are all, unsurprisingly, old :)

ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
riffraff · 2 years ago
This is really quite cool, congrats!

If I may perhaps the player widget could be a tad bigger? I initially didn't notice it at all, on mobile.

ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
Should be better now :)
ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
asimpletune · 2 years ago
Very cool project. I love how much thought you put into it, it really shows. One thing is I wanted to make you aware of is that the player doesn't work on MacOS Safari. Another thing that's really minor is that the font ligatures are a little distracting. Still though, amazing work. I love it and I'll keep checking in and seeing how it gets updated.

I really wish something like this existed for ancient greek.

ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
I hope the player is not better on Safari!
ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
silent_cal · 2 years ago
Love it, thanks for posting. I'm in the process of building a similar app for Latin. How did you handle loading the word data in the sidebar? Is all that data stored statically, or are you using fetch API to get it from a database?
ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
Thank you!

It's all in the initial HTML payload. Each word in Italian, its translation in English, and the corresponding sidenote, if any, all have a common `data-id`. When the mouse hovers on a word, the corresponding note gets a `.visible` class via JS.

ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
Qwuke · 2 years ago
I love the design of the site and it's really a dream for reading translated poetry! I enjoy reading a handful of Italian poets (and translated poetry in general), and a website like this for German, Polish, etc poetry would be lovely. Would you ever think of open sourcing this for others to attempt this for their own languages?

I'd really love to see a couple poems from the notoriously hard to translate Giacomo Leopardi - they are quite beautiful, and hearing them in Italian is a treat!

ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
Never mind, it was La sera del dì di festa. But here it is :)

https://italianpoetry.it/poems/la-sera-del-d%C3%AC-di-festa/

ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
artzmeister · 2 years ago
Dude, yes! I was reading this and thinking "if only there was one for Latin..."!

There is a big Latin & Ancient Greek server on Discord, and the people over there would love your project for sure. Lots of them being Italians, it would be even better. Since you're wondering about the help of experts, there would be no better place to go to than there.

I dream of a unified platform for the classics - translation, archive of books, and so on... equidem adjuvabo si quidam tamen capiat umquam consilium. Vale!

ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
Greek is sadly out of my reach, but I'm very curious about this Discord you mentioned.

Could you, here or by email, point it out to me? After this website has "settled" a bit, it might be fun to look into that Latin :)

ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
mdp2021 · 2 years ago
Very great initiative.

I would add the year of composition in the list: 'Oct 10, Tacciono i boschi e i fiumi (1591), by Torquato Tasso'

The voice is quite good.

How will we submit requests?

Today (15 Oct 2023) is the centenary of the birth of Italo Calvino. You could have added "Le città e la memoria 1. [Diomira]", the proper opening, from "Le città invisibili".

> Partendosi di là e andando tre giornate verso levante, l’uomo si trova a Diomira, città con sessanta cupole d’argento, statue in bronzo di tutti gli dei, vie lastricate in stagno, un teatro di cristallo, un gallo d’oro che canta ogni mattina su una torre. Tutte queste bellezze il viaggiatore già conosce per averle viste anche in altre città. Ma la proprietà di questa è che chi vi arriva una sera di settembre, quando le giornate s’accorciano e le lampade multicolori s’accendono tutte insieme sulle porte delle friggitorie, e da una terrazza una voce di donna grida: uh!, gli viene da invidiare quelli che ora pensano d’aver già vissuto una sera uguale a questa e d’esser stati quella volta felici.

ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
> I would add the year of composition in the list: 'Oct 10, Tacciono i boschi e i fiumi (1591), by Torquato Tasso'

There's a list-by-composition date page, but indeed, that makes a lot of sense. Will add!

> How will we submit requests?

Awwww please do :)

I assumed an email would be best (see Contact link in the footer), but maybe something more social? I made accounts for mastodon [1], twitter (@italian_poetry) and reddit [2] (plus BuyMeACoffee [3], for the most adventurous ^_^), which I should put somewhere on the website.

What do you think would be best? When trying to put this website out there I had to realize the hard way that I suck at social media...

[1] https://zirk.us/@italianpoetry

[2] https://old.reddit.com/user/italianpoetry/

[3] https://www.buymeacoffee.com/italianpoetry

ItalianPoetry commented on Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers   italianpoetry.it/... · Posted by u/ItalianPoetry
asimpletune · 2 years ago
Very cool project. I love how much thought you put into it, it really shows. One thing is I wanted to make you aware of is that the player doesn't work on MacOS Safari. Another thing that's really minor is that the font ligatures are a little distracting. Still though, amazing work. I love it and I'll keep checking in and seeing how it gets updated.

I really wish something like this existed for ancient greek.

ItalianPoetry · 2 years ago
Thanks!

I should have tested it on Apple stuff :/ Thanks for reporting, I'll check it out

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