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Chris_arnade commented on A rant on bus stops   walkingtheworld.substack.... · Posted by u/Chris_arnade
Chris_arnade · 2 years ago
My write-up on the recent LA bus stop fiasco
Chris_arnade commented on On the cheap, like a local, and without a lot of luggage   walkingtheworld.substack.... · Posted by u/brandrick
smoldesu · 3 years ago
I grew up in between Ypsilanti & Detroit, and I've lived around/in a number of borderline-impoverished communities. It's not my place to make generalizations, but you should be aware that your tourism is not always welcome. Many, if not most of these people, are not proud of their situation. They might smile and take your money as you photograph them, but your motivations are not mutual.

When I was a kid, my decently wealthy grandparents visited on my birthday and offered me $100 if I'd cut my "garish, girly" hair down to a more typical length. Self-righteous allegories aside, I still feel that choice burned into my head like a brand. They let me choose between living as I am, a resented shame in a family too poor to buy cans of Coke or Pokemon cards, or take $100 to humiliate myself for a few short moments. In the end I rejected them, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't dream about yo-yos and Bakugan that night.

Nowadays I thankfully live in a different economic strata, and I even sympathize with your curiosity to explore different cultures and lifestyles. You should stay fully aware of your optics at all times, though. Sometimes, the greatest charity is treating other individuals with the same respect you give your peers.

Chris_arnade · 3 years ago
Again. There is nothing in this I disagree with. But there is a lot of assumptions on what I have wrote over my last 12 years based on not reading what I wrote.

If you read Dignity, and come to the same conclusion. Fine. But this thread is based on a Wiki page.

Congrats on Living in a different Eco strata. That is well done! (no snark intended. Genuine congrats)

Chris_arnade commented on On the cheap, like a local, and without a lot of luggage   walkingtheworld.substack.... · Posted by u/brandrick
fritztastic · 3 years ago
Wow, the criticism of his "Faces of Affiction" work is spot on.

From his Istanbul post:

>Because being an addict here is an ugly and gross rebellion against a town that feels like a single massive mosque. A place that is welcoming, humble, peaceful, and sublimely beautiful. It is like pissing on an alter. A gross, ugly, and rebellious act that will bring scorn and shame. Both in the physical and spiritual world. US cities by comparison have all the ethos of an office park. Drab, soulless, and endlessly competitive, where selfishness is rewarded. Being an addict there is like pissing on the drab shrub at the edge of a massive parking lot. It doesn’t feel that wrong. It even feels a little right. Especially if your a tad depressed. A tad isolated. A tad lonely. And many people are."

There is an issue here with this attempt at documenting people but without taking the time to learn and understand how to do it respectfully, ethically, and with consideration to the people he's observing. I want to believe his motivation comes from a good place, that he wants to bring attention to people's lives... but the way his writing reads sounds more like the fetishization of the marginalized and elitism over exceptionalism. It sounds like "yes I'm privileged but unlike those other privileged people I talk to the poors", because rather than centering the voices of the people he claims to "inhabit their tiny slice of the world"(while claiming his goal is "to better understand how they see the universe and their place in it") he dishes out his value judgements. The hubris that all you need to get an idea of how people live is to... show up. He does write that he sees traveling as fiction with the plot written in real time- evidently with him as the MC. He seems to want to change for the better though, and I hope he learns to invest a little more time into figuring out how to look at people's lives more respectfully than as entertainment.

Chris_arnade · 3 years ago
"rather than centering the voices of the people he claims to "inhabit their tiny slice of the world"

I wrote a book center the voices of marginalized people I spent up to 10 years with during my time documenting addiction in the US. It's called Dignity. I don't expect you to read it, but perhaps if you did, your criticisms would be different.

This project, walking around the world and sending dispatches, is different. While I talk to plenty of people during my trips, its a more macro based approach.

While I appreciate your takes, I will say your making some pretty huge assumptions based on one article. Such is life!

Take care and be well

u/Chris_arnade

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I'm presently walking around the world, offering small dispatches filled with photos.

I wrote a book about my ten years walking/driving around the US. Called Dignity. Check it out!

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