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Boxxed commented on Carrier Landing in Top Gun for the NES   relaxing.run/blag/posts/t... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
jordigh · 4 days ago
The information to properly land the plane is in the manual. The required air speed and altitude have never been a secret, if you read the manual (which I guess most kids didn't).

The real difficulty, not explored in this disassembly, is that the game has semi-realistic physics! My older brother was in flight school at the time and was able to easily land the plane and taught me how to do it.

As the article states, "Altitude and speed are both controlled by throttle input and pitch angle". So you can't just hit the engines or air brakes button to change your speed. If you lower the nose of the plane, you'll speed up and vice versa! So you have to carefully juggle your speed and altitude by altering both your pitch and your engines/air brakes.

My brother taught me that my speed wouldn't reduce if I'm nosediving, so raise the nose a little while opening my air brakes for a quick reduction in speed and then level out to maintain altitude. The game actually models this somewhat accurately!

Boxxed · 4 days ago
> The information to properly land the plane is in the manual. The required air speed and altitude have never been a secret, if you read the manual (which I guess most kids didn't).

It's also on-screen. What's missing is the acceptable ranges -- +/- 100 for altitude, +/- 50 for speed, per the post. Knowing that the slop for altitude is much higher is definitely helpful information.

Boxxed commented on Carrier Landing in Top Gun for the NES   relaxing.run/blag/posts/t... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
moron4hire · 4 days ago
I think people focused too much on the speed too early on, which put them in a stall condition without any feedback they were stalling. For most of the run, you want to be losing altitude so you don't notice, but near the end you're probably too low with not enough speed to climb, so even though you're pulling up, you're still losing altitude, and that's where people got the idea that their inputs didn't "matter."
Boxxed · 4 days ago
> but near the end you're probably too low with not enough speed to climb, so even though you're pulling up, you're still losing altitude

The region of reversed command -- pretty cool that such a simple NES game managed to replicate that counter-intuitive part of the flight envelope.

https://agairupdate.com/2021/10/02/the-region-of-reversed-co...

Boxxed commented on Carrier Landing in Top Gun for the NES   relaxing.run/blag/posts/t... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
phantasmish · 4 days ago
The trick is just to know the numbers to aim for and ignore the instructions.

I had the game and the manual, but I can’t recall if I ever read the manual. I played the game a ton and was maybe 50/50 at the landings, but just followed the on-screen instructions. I could probably have puzzled out the target numbers, but never did (was it in the manual?). Now you can just google the correct values and nail it every time (paying no attention to the on-screen directions).

[edit] incidentally, my “it’s not actually hard” thing from the NES is the dam level in TMNT. It’s a challenge like the first two times you play it, then never again. It’s just not that hard. I think it’s easier than tons of Mario game levels, for instance.

Boxxed · 4 days ago
> The trick is just to know the numbers to aim for and ignore the instructions.

Interestingly, the instructions are actually all correct. If it says, "Left! Left!" for instance you will crash if you don't fix it.

I think the disconnect might be that altitude and speed somewhat feedback on each other and it takes time for your inputs to settle, so it always feels like you're chasing the instructions.

Boxxed commented on Carrier Landing in Top Gun for the NES   relaxing.run/blag/posts/t... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
debo_ · 4 days ago
I never had much trouble landing on the carrier, but refueling in the sky? I think I only managed it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vetEg8J-wcw

Boxxed · 4 days ago
The refueling music is the best part of the soundtrack, and somehow that video doesn't have it...different version of the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfUZix8jVBY&t=187s

Boxxed commented on Carrier Landing in Top Gun for the NES   relaxing.run/blag/posts/t... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
rob74 · 4 days ago
> After about a minute of flying the game checks your state and plays a little cutscene showing either a textbook landing or an expensive fireball. Either way, you get a “Mission Accomplished!” and go to the next level (after all, you don’t own that plane, the taxpayers do):

For realism's (and comedy's) sake, they could have shown a pixel ejecting from the five (I think) pixels that form the jet before it explodes into a fireball, then floating down on a tiny parachute and being rescued by a tiny boat.

...but seriously, you didn't even get your score reduced for crashing the plane on landing?

Boxxed · 4 days ago
> ...but seriously, you didn't even get your score reduced for crashing the plane on landing?

Well, you don't get the 10,000 bonus points

Boxxed commented on LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted   old.reddit.com/r/mildlyin... · Posted by u/bj-rn
Boxxed · 6 days ago
I wonder how this went down. "Hey LG, this is the Microsofts. Just had an idea how we could give your entire customer base the middle finger, wanna hear it?"
Boxxed commented on IBM to acquire Confluent   confluent.io/blog/ibm-to-... · Posted by u/abd12
gooob · 11 days ago
wait what's wrong with kafka?
Boxxed · 11 days ago
I was in the midst of writing a snarky reply and then realized my actual issue with Kafka is that people reach for it way too often and use it in ways that don't really make sense.

Kind of like how people use docker for evrything, when what you really should be doing is learn how to package software.

Boxxed commented on Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)   anders.unix.se/2015/12/10... · Posted by u/turrini
Almondsetat · 13 days ago
RMS to me is really a curious case. He doesn't know how to install GNU+Linux and relies on others to do it. He doesn't know how to take a screenshot, and I remember reading other snippets from him about not knowing how to perform other basic tasks.
Boxxed · 13 days ago
I once asked a YC alum, "Got any good Paul Graham stories?" And he had a couple; apparently the dude would often ask for help with basic tech things like setting up his wireless. Same kind of thing, I guess.

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Boxxed commented on Uv is the best thing to happen to the Python ecosystem in a decade   emily.space/posts/251023-... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
pjmlp · 2 months ago
Most !== All
Boxxed · 2 months ago
Then why did you say, "There is yet one to exist that dies before its forks."

Sure sounds to me like you meant "all".

u/Boxxed

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