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Androider commented on OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/swyx
robinhood · 4 months ago
"riddled with bugs". "incredibly poorly implemented". Man, what are you talking about? Your comment seems based on nothing but what you read online.

Have you used Cursor on a daily basis? I have. Every day for six months now. I haven't encountered a single bug that prevent me to work.

Moreover, while Microsoft tries to catch up lately, it's still very far behind, especially on the "tab autocompletion" front.

Androider · 4 months ago
I use Cursor in anger every day. The core idea behind Cursor is genuinely smart. But the execution is like the classic "unfinished horse" meme [0].

Microsoft provides the editor base, foundation models provide the smarts, and Cursor provides some, in my experience, extremely buggy context management features. There is no moat.

[0] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/unfinished-horse-drawing-flam...

Androider commented on OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/swyx
sidcool · 4 months ago
That's a oversimplified view. It doesn't matter if it's a fork. It has customers and paying ones. And it has a brand. That's more than enough. $3 billion would be peanuts for OpenAI
Androider · 4 months ago
VSCode must have over 100 times the user base of Windsurf and Cursor combined. All Microsoft needs to do is implement a halfway decent version of the context management features these forks added. That alone would be enough to halt user migration.

For users who've already switched to the forks, the cost of switching back is essentially zero, especially if Microsoft begins introducing changes that break fork compatibility. In that case, the migration direction would reverse almost overnight.

Androider commented on OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/swyx
Androider · 4 months ago
Windsurf and Cursor feel like temporary stopgaps, products of a narrow window in time before the landscape shifts again.

Microsoft has clearly taken notice. They're already starting to lock down the upstream VSCode codebase, as seen with recent changes to the C/C++ extension [0]. It's not hard to imagine that future features like TypeScript 7.0 might be limited or even withheld from forks entirely. At the same time, Microsoft will likely replicate Windsurf and Cursor's features within a year. And deliver them with far greater stability and polish.

Both Windsurf and Cursor are riddled with bugs that don't exist upstream, _especially_ in their AI assistant features beyond the VSCode core. Context management which is supposed to be the core featured added is itself incredibly poorly implemented [1].

Ultimately, the future isn't about a smarter editor, it's about a smarter teammate. Tools like GitHub Copilot or future agents will handle entire engineering tickets: generating PRs with tests, taking feedback, and iterating like a real collaborator.

[0] https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/24/microsoft_vs_code_sub...

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/cursor/comments/1kbt790/rules_in_49...

Androider commented on Hydrogen vs. Battery Buses: A European Transit Reality Check   cleantechnica.com/2025/04... · Posted by u/xbmcuser
SoftTalker · 4 months ago
My school district has some that are electric and they are quite noisy also. sounds like gear noise mainly, so they must have a reduction gear or some sort of transmission. They also still have air brakes so you hear the compressor and the PSSSSHT of air when they stop.
Androider · 4 months ago
It wasn't easy, but the bus company managed to make their EV leak oil and need gear maintenance.
Androider commented on Bitter Lesson is about AI agents   ankitmaloo.com/bitter-les... · Posted by u/ankit219
layer8 · 5 months ago
It’s not “just like”, because humans can be held accountable. Also, I suspect that the distribution of failure modes is actually substantially different between LLMs and humans.
Androider · 5 months ago
Add more humans and LLMs to correct for errors. If humans sometimes go crazy and try to randomly end the world at a rate of 0.1%, requiring two humans to turn two keys synchronously to end the world reduces the error rate to 0.01%.

So, to avoid depressed AIs ending the world randomly, have a stable of multiple AIs with different provenance (one from Anthropic, one from OpenAI, one from Google...) require a majority agreement to reduce the error rate. Adjust thresholds depending on criticality of the task at hand.

Androider commented on New tools for building agents   openai.com/index/new-tool... · Posted by u/meetpateltech
EGreg · 6 months ago
“ These new tools streamline core agent logic, orchestration, and interactions, making it significantly easier for developers to get started with building agents”

Sounds exactly like “the cloud”, especially AWS. Basically “get married to our platform, build on top of it, and make it hard to leave.” The benefits are that it’s easy to get started. And also that they invested in the infrastructure, but now they are trying to lock you in by storing as much state and data as possible with them withoit an easy way to migrate. So, increase your switching costs. For social networks the benefit was that they had the network effect but that doesn’t apply here.

Androider · 6 months ago
All of AWS' big money makers are the meat-and-potatoes services around compute, storage, databases etc. where you could drop their offering and replace it with another in a straightforward way. It will cost you to migrate in terms of time and direct spend (those egress fees...), but it's possible. Companies ultimately stay put because the products work and the price is reasonable, but if they tried to 10X the price overnight everyone would eventually bolt.

Yeah they keep pushing higher-level services, but the uptake of these is extremely limited. If you used something like SageMaker, which has an extremely high lock-in factor, it's probably because you're an old school company that don't know what you're doing and AWS held your developer's hand to get the Hello World-level app working, but at least you got your name printed in their case study materials of the project at the end.

I think OpenAI looks at AWS and thinks they can do better. And for their investors, they must do better. But in the end I think the commoditization of LLMs is already almost complete, and this is just a futile attempt to fight it.

Androider commented on New tools for building agents   openai.com/index/new-tool... · Posted by u/meetpateltech
bob1029 · 6 months ago
I don't know how much this API churn is going to help developers who are trying to integrate OAI into real, actual, non-wrapper products. Every vendor-managed state machine that handles conversation, messages, prompt hand-off, etc., has ultimately proven inadequate, presumptive or distracting for my use cases.

At the end of the day, all I ever seem to use is the chat completion API with structured outputs turned on. Despite my "basic" usage, I am employing tool use, recursive conversations, RAG, etc. I don't see the value in outsourcing state management of my "agent" to a 3rd party. I have way more autonomy if I keep things like this local.

The entire premise of these products is that you are feeding a string literal into some black box and it gives you a new string. Hopefully, as JSON or whatever you requested. If you focus just on the idea of composing the appropriate string each time, everything else melts away. This is the only grain that really matters. Think about other ways in which we compose highly-structured strings based upon business state stored in a database. It's literally the exact same thing you do when you SSR a webpage with PHP. The only real difference is how it is served.

Androider · 6 months ago
Exactly. You would have to be naive to build a company on top of this kind of API. LLMs are going to be become commodities, and this is OpenAI fighting against that fate as their valuation and continued investment requirements doesn't make any sense otherwise.

If you built on the Assistant API, maybe take the hint and don't just rewrite to the Responses API? Own your product, black box the LLM-of-the-day.

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Androider commented on Alexander the Great's tunic identified in royal tomb at Vergina?   tandfonline.com/doi/full/... · Posted by u/fork-bomber
openrisk · 10 months ago
> Archeology is not code nor is it physics.

Indeed, but after scanning this article that pulls in all those pieces of indirect evidence I wondered whether some type of structured knowledge database (that encodes the innumerable pieces of historical information that are known, tags them with confidence levels etc.) would not be useful to advance research in such domains.

Something like a large collection of RDF triplets against which you could run a query like "Given this new data point how (more)likely that Alexander the Great's tunic is identified in a royal tomb at Vergina?"

Androider · 10 months ago
It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.

u/Androider

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