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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on What is going on right now?   catskull.net/what-the-hel... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
sim7c00 · 2 days ago
you are not wrong. the only 'sane' approaches ive seen with vibe coding is making a PoC to see if some concept works. then rewrite it entirely to make sure its sound.

besides just weird or broken code, anything exposed to user input is usually severly lacking sanity checks etc.

llms are not useless for coding. but imho letting llms do the coding will not yield production grade code.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 2 days ago
POC approach seems to work for me lately. It still takes effort to convince manager that it makes sense to devote time to polishing it afterwards, but some of the initial reticence is mitigated.

edit: Not a programmer. Just a guy who needs some stuff done for some of the things I need to work on.

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on Building AI products in the probabilistic era   giansegato.com/essays/pro... · Posted by u/sdan
therobots927 · 3 days ago
You know something I don’t hear a lot from chatGPT? “I don’t know”
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 3 days ago
True. Seemingly, based on my experiences, the instructions are to keep individual engaged for as long as possible. I hate to say it, but it works too.

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on Building AI products in the probabilistic era   giansegato.com/essays/pro... · Posted by u/sdan
bithive123 · 3 days ago
It became evident to me while playing with Stable Diffusion that it's basically a slot machine. A skinner box with a variable reinforcement schedule.

Harmless enough if you are just making images for fun. But probably not an ideal workflow for real work.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 3 days ago
<< But probably not an ideal workflow for real work.

Hmm. Ideal is rarely an option, so I have to assume you are being careful about phrasing.

Still, despite it being a black box, one can still tip the odds on one's favor, so the real question is what is considered 'real work'? I personally would define that as whatever they you are being paid to do. If that premise is accepted, then the tool is not the issue, despite its obvious handicaps.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on LLMs and coding agents are a security nightmare   garymarcus.substack.com/p... · Posted by u/flail
mywittyname · 6 days ago
> Is the argument that developers who are less experience/in a hurry,

The CTO of my company has pushed multiple AI written PRs that had obvious breaks/edge cases, even after chastising other people for having done the same.

It's not an experience issue. It's a complacency issue. It's a testing issue. It's the price companies pay to get products out the door as quickly as possible.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 6 days ago
This. Our company rolled out 'internal' AI ( in quotes, because its a wrapper on chatgpt with some mild regulatory checks on output ). We were officially asked to use it for tasks wherever possible. And during training sessions, my question about privacy ( as users clearly are not following basic hygiene for attached file ) was not just dismissed, but ignored.

I am not a luddite. I see great potential in this tech, but holy mackarel will there be price to pay.

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on LLMs and coding agents are a security nightmare   garymarcus.substack.com/p... · Posted by u/flail
lylejantzi3rd · 6 days ago
Is there a market for apps that use local LLMs? I don't know of many people who make their purchasing decisions based on security, but I do know lawyers are one subset that do.

Using a local LLM isn't a surefire solution unless you also restrict the app's permissions, but it's got to be better than using chatgpt.com. The question is: how much better?

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 6 days ago
I think the short answer is that there is not one yet, but similar how there is a level of movement behind lan by people that want and can do that, we may eventually see something similar for non-technical users. At the end of the day, security is not sexy, but LLM input/output is a treasure throve if usable information..

I am building something for myself now and local is first consideration, because, as most of us here, likely see the direction publicly facing LLMs are going. FWIW, it kinda sucks, because I started to really enjoy my sessions with 4o

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on IQ tests results for AI   trackingai.org/home... · Posted by u/stared
terminalshort · 6 days ago
I guess you could call it fatalist, but is it fatalist to say I was born to be 5'10" and there's not a damn thing in the world I can do to be 6'? Isn't it the same with intelligence? You may feel smarter now, but are you really? What, exactly, makes you fell like you are? Do you think that if you met those same people today they wouldn't still be significantly smarter than you?
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 6 days ago
I would argue that while similiar, they ( height and intelligence ) are not exactly the same. Brains have plastiticity to them, which allows some level of calibration and adjustment ( though seemingly mostly intended and used to overcome damage )

<< You may feel smarter now, but are you really?

Best I can tell you is that, looking back, I was definitely dumber:D To your point, that may be just experience talking.

<< What, exactly, makes you fell like you are?

Now that is a good question. I think it is mostly reflection on what was and comparison to what is.

<< Do you think that if you met those same people today they wouldn't still be significantly smarter than you?

Hard to say; life has a way of beating you on a consistent basis and, from what I understand, all 3 have kids, which bring their own challenges ( you certainly can't pursue what you want to pursue as easily ).

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 commented on IQ tests results for AI   trackingai.org/home... · Posted by u/stared
terminalshort · 7 days ago
There is no logic. Some people are just born much smarter than others and there is nothing you can do about it if you aren't one of them. The implications of that fact are too much for most people to accept so we pretend that it isn't true.
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 · 7 days ago
That is a very fatalist perspective. In HS, I was in a class with 3 kids, who were genuinely smarter than me ( not by a notch, mind; comparatively speaking I was just dumber ). I agree that pretending I was/am not dumb by comparison would not help, but suggesting 'nothing you can do about it' is not entirely accurate either. Frankly, the reason I slowly got less dumb is because of my exposure to them. There is something awe-inspiring about seeing a guy using cold logic to guide you through something and be 100% correct.

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