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4b6442477b1280b commented on Open models by OpenAI   openai.com/open-models/... · Posted by u/lackoftactics
a_wild_dandan · 20 days ago
Oh absolutely, AI labs certainly talk their books, including any safety angles. The controversy/outrage extended far beyond those incentivized companies too. Many people had good faith worries about Llama. Open-weight models are now vastly more powerful than Llama-1, yet the sky hasn't fallen. It's just fascinating to me how apocalyptic people are.

I just feel lucky to be around in what's likely the most important decade in human history. Shit odds on that, so I'm basically a lotto winner. Wild times.

4b6442477b1280b · 20 days ago
>Many people had good faith worries about Llama.

ah, but that begs the question: did those people develop their worries organically, or did they simply consume the narrative heavily pushed by virtually every mainstream publication?

the journos are heavily incentivized to spread FUD about it. they saw the writing on the wall that the days of making a living by producing clickbait slop were coming to an end and deluded themselves into thinking that if they kvetch enough, the genie will crawl back into the bottle. scaremongering about sci-fi skynet bullshit didn't work, so now they kvetch about joules and milliliters consumed by chatbots, as if data centers did not exist until two years ago.

likewise, the bulk of other "concerned citizens" are creatives who use their influence to sway their followers, still hoping against hope to kvetch this technology out of existence.

honest-to-God yuddites are as few and as retarded as honest-to-God flat earthers.

4b6442477b1280b commented on Open models by OpenAI   openai.com/open-models/... · Posted by u/lackoftactics
a_wild_dandan · 20 days ago
Right? I still remember the safety outrage of releasing Llama. Now? My 96 GB of (V)RAM MacBook will be running a 120B parameter frontier lab model. So excited to get my hands on the MLX quants and see how it feels compared to GLM-4.5-air.
4b6442477b1280b · 20 days ago
in that era, OpenAI and Anthropic were still deluding themselves into thinking they would be the "stewards" of generative AI, and the last US administration was very keen on regoolating everything under the sun, so "safety" was just an angle for regulatory capture.

God bless China.

4b6442477b1280b commented on Open models by OpenAI   openai.com/open-models/... · Posted by u/lackoftactics
DSingularity · 20 days ago
Ha. Secure funding and proceed to immediately make a decision that would likely conflict viscerally with investors.
4b6442477b1280b · 20 days ago
their promise to release an open weights model predates this round of funding by, iirc, over half a year.
4b6442477b1280b commented on Open models by OpenAI   openai.com/open-models/... · Posted by u/lackoftactics
minimaxir · 20 days ago
I'm disappointed that the smallest model size is 21B parameters, which strongly restricts how it can be run on personal hardware. Most competitors have released a 3B/7B model for that purpose.

For self-hosting, it's smart that they targeted a 16GB VRAM config for it since that's the size of the most cost-effective server GPUs, but I suspect "native MXFP4 quantization" has quality caveats.

4b6442477b1280b · 20 days ago
with quantization, 20B fits effortlessly in 24GB

with quantization + CPU offloading, non-thinking models run kind of fine (at about 2-5 tokens per second) even with 8 GB of VRAM

sure, it would be great if we could have models in all sizes imaginable (7/13/24/32/70/100+/1000+), but 20B and 120B are great.

4b6442477b1280b commented on Lack of intent is what makes reading LLM-generated text exhausting   lambdaland.org/posts/2025... · Posted by u/ashton314
4b6442477b1280b · 20 days ago
>And no human is so worthless as to be replaceable with a machine.

did the author oversleep the past several centuries?

as for the rest of it, the current crop of LLMs are bad at writing because of ~~brainwashing~~ alignment and the vast amount of ESL-written assistant exchanges being heavily prioritized during training. when you interact with a corporate model via its default chat interface, without a jailbreak and a generous prefill, you interact with the equivalent of a HR lady who takes her DEI training super seriously. the Chinese models train heavily on the slop produced by GPT/Claude/Gemini, so they exhibit similar behavior. it was particularly noticeable with original llama, whose base models were much more human compared to the finetunes, which were heavily tainted with GPT slop.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that LLMs are not inherently incapable of writing well. a model trained only on high-quality human data and without safety/alignment brainwash will be far, far more capable than the current ones.

4b6442477b1280b commented on Eating earlier linked to long-term weight-loss success   medicalxpress.com/news/20... · Posted by u/pseudolus
4b6442477b1280b · 20 days ago
the explanation is probably pretty mundane: you are less prone to buy random crap if you aren't hungry. doing groceries on empty stomach is makes you vulnerable to impulsive purchases.

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4b6442477b1280b commented on Ask HN: Is true democracy possible in online tech communities?    · Posted by u/ff12wq111
p_ing · 23 days ago
> How do you prevent mob rule while maintaining democracy?

You don't. Look at California's direct democracy, allowing voters to put propositions on the ballot that alter the State Constitution.

(That's not really "mob rule" but it can lead to all sorts of interesting consequences)

> Should all voices be equal, or should expertise/contribution matter?

So if you're not an expert, your vote only counts for 3/5ths of a vote?

> How do you handle spam/quality without authoritarian moderation?

Stupid people are allowed to vote.

4b6442477b1280b · 23 days ago
>Stupid people are allowed to vote.

ironic to say that here, where supposedly smart people say the dumbest, cringiest shit imaginable about a wide variety of topics.

4b6442477b1280b commented on Age verification doesn't need to be a privacy footgun   soatok.blog/2025/07/31/ag... · Posted by u/zdw
4b6442477b1280b · 24 days ago
it is designed to be a privacy footgun. this wave of age verification bullshit is their foot in the door for "login with your government-issued ID". anonymous rabble congregating on the internet, spreading malinformation and expressing illegal opinions are extremely dangerous to our democracy. the ETA is 5-20 years until another wave of "safety" laws that will require your real identity to be linked to every clearnet website you interact with.

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