But lucky for the AI companies, most of them are based in place that only has a government on paper and everyone forgot where that paper is.

I mean, yes, that is actually how world works. That is why we need safety, environmental and other anti-fraud regulations. Because without them, competition makes it so that every successful company will fraud, hurt and harm. Those who wont will be taken over by those who do.

To be fair, this is true in nearly all industries and for nearly all companies. Almost everyone is chasing money and monopoly. Not that it makes it right, just pointing out it isn’t unique or even interesting about the AI companies

It sounds like they are in a cutthroat market, and realised they couldn't afford to stake that principle. And that it wouldn't matter if they did – it would just assure them being handicapped in a field where no others followed suit.

Better hills to die on.

Was anyone fooled by this?

I mean, I know this is HN and there is a demographic here that gets all misty eyed about the benevolence of corporations.

It takes a special kind of naivety to believe in those claims.

Censorship?

AI is powerful and AI is perilous. Those two aren't mutually exclusive. Those follow directly from the same premise.

If AI tech goes very well, it can be the greatest invention of all human history. If AI tech goes very poorly, it can be the end of human history.

If they were unrelated, Anthropic wouldn’t be doing this this week because obviously everyone will conflate the two.

With the latest competing models they are now realizing they are an "also" provider.

Sobering up fast with ice bucket of 5.3-codex, Copilot, and OpenCode dumped on their head.

N.B. the time travel aspect also required suspension of disbelief, but somehow that was easier :-)

They're not really, it's always been a form of PR to both hype their research and make sure it's locked away to be monetized.

Curing all cancers would increase population growth by more than 10% (9.7-10m cancer related deaths vs current 70-80m growth rate), and cause an average aging of the population as curing cancer would increase general life expectancy and a majority of the lives just saved would be older people.

We'd even see a jobs and resources shock (though likely dissimilar in scale) as billions of funding is shifted away from oncologists, oncology departments, oncology wards, etc. Billions of dollars, millions of hospital beds, countless specialized professionals all suddenly re-assigned just as in AI.

Honestly the cancer/nuclear/tech comparison is rather apt. All either are or could be disruptive and either are or could be a net negative to society while posing the possibility of the greatest revolution we've seen in generations.

Maybe some of the more naive engineers think that. At this point any big tech businesses or SV startup saying they're in it to usher in some piece of the Star Trek utopia deserves to be smacked in the face for insulting the rest of us like that. The argument is always "well the economic incentive structure forces us to do this bad thing, and if we don't we're screwed!" Oh, so ideals so shallow you aren't willing to risk a tiny fraction of your billions to meet them. Cool.

Every AI company/product in particular is the smarmiest version of this. "We told all the blue collar workers to go white collar for decades, and now we're coming for all the white collar jobs! Not ours though, ours will be fine, just yours. That's progress, what are you going to do? You'll have to renegotiate the entire civilizational social contract. No we aren't going to help. No we aren't going to sacrifice an ounce of profit. This is a you problem, but we're being so nice by warning you! Why do you want to stand in the way of progress? What are you a Luddite? We're just saying we're going to take away your ability to pay your mortgage/rent, deny any kids you have a future, and there's nothing you can do about it, why are you anti-progress?"

Cynicism aside, I use LLMs to the marginal degree that they actually help me be more productive at work. But at best this is Web 3.0. The broader "AI vision" really needs to die

The reason Claude became popular is because it made shit up less often than other models, and was better at saying "I can't answer that question." The guardrails are quality control.

I would rather have more reliable models than more powerful models that screw up all the time.

It is entirely reasonable to not provide tools to break the law by doing mass surveillance on civilian citizens and to insist the tool not be used automatically to kill a human without a human in the loop. Those are unreasonable demands by an unreasonable regime.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47145963

Riiiiiight.

This sounds like a lie. But if they are telling the truth, that's a terrible timing nonetheless.

Amd they alone are responsible enough to govern it.

But frankly I feel like the founders of Anthropic and others are victim of the same hallucination.

LLMs are amazing tools. They play back & generate what we prompt them to play back, and more.

Anybody who mistakes this for SkyNet -- an independent consciousness with instant, permanent, learning and adaptation and self-awareness, is just huffing the fumes and just as delusional as Lemoine was 4 years ago.

Everyone of of us should spend some time writing an agentic tool and managing context and the agentic conversation loop. These things are primitive as hell still. I still have to "compact my context" every N tokens and "thinking" is repeating the same conversational chain over and over and jamming words in.

Turns out this is useful stuff. In some domains.

It ain't SkyNet.

I don't know if Anthropic is truly high on their own supply or just taking us all for fools so that they can pilfer investor money and push regulatory capture?

There's also a bad trait among engineers, deeply reinforced by survivor bias, to assume that every technological trend follows Moore's law and exponential growth. But that applie[s|d] to transistors, not everything.

I see no evidence that LLMs + exponential growth in parameters + context windows = SkyNet or any other kind of independent consciousness.

Reminds me of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

which has the same kind of shitty conclusion.

Claude only talks about safety, but never released anything open source.

All this said I’m surprised China actually delivered so many open source alternatives. Which are decent.

Why westerns (which are supposed to be the good guys) didn’t release anything open source to help humanity ? And always claim they don’t release because of safety and then give the unlimited AI to military? Just bullshit.

Let’s all be honest and just say you only care about the money, and whomever pays you take.

They are businesses after all so their goal is to make money. But please don’t claim you want to save the world or help humans. You just want to get rich at others expenses. Which is totally fair. You do a good product and you sell.