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spacebanana7 · 22 days ago
The last time the Duke of York was arrested was in 1483. And before that, the most recent prior was in 1452 during the War of the Roses.
drcongo · 22 days ago
Blimey, he's older than he looks.
jaxelr · 22 days ago
I wonder, does the streak technically still continues? As he was stripped of his titles.
spacebanana7 · 22 days ago
Yeah it requires an act of parliament to scrap the Duke title, neither the King nor voluntary resignation can do that
petepete · 22 days ago
Series 7 of The Crown will be fun.
adaml_623 · 22 days ago
As always when reading about these stories I have two questions:

* When did other high profile people know about this illegal and immoral behavior

* Who else is getting away with similar behavior right now

bell-cot · 22 days ago
1 - Assume it was decades ago. That I've heard, a fair number of the released emails mentioned Jeff's 2008 conviction. But to paraphrase Leona Helmsley, "only the little people need to follow laws". That attitude seems to be very common in the emails.

2 - Isn't it convenient that zero major news organizations - controlled by high profile people and their buddies - are raising that issue? Not that I believe there to be any public support for competent & systematic enforcement of the laws against such behavior. That I've heard of, nobody even cares about how Jeff got off with a slap on the wrist in 2008.

BLKNSLVR · 22 days ago
I also kinda have the question of: Who is the new Jeffrey Epstein?

Nature abhors a vacuum, and it seems the space that Epstein filled was large and branching and significantly profitable (in money, information, and influence). There's no way there isn't at least one other person that's started to fill the void.

Ideally, the ramifications of association with Epstein should shrink the size of the vacuum considerably, but the pursuit of those associates has really only just started and, as someone else has already pointed out, some countries / governments are protecting these associates rather than investigating / prosecuting. As such, there's not much discouragement yet.

phtrivier · 22 days ago
It's unfortunately very possible that someone else is filling the "bring underage girls to rich guys" part (seriously, we have to "teach this fantasy out" for most little boys) ; but it might be someone more discrete, with a smaller network, and who will not merge the "socialite businessmen" persona with the "pimp for the rich" persona.

Also, it might be an anomaly that one person has a very big network ; maybe it's usually more of a "small adjacent networks".

So it would be like asking "who replaced pablo escobar or bernard madoff". The answer is (unfortunately) very likely not "no-one" ; but it might very well be "not one".

throwaway85825 · 21 days ago
The royal family really doesn't want to answer questions about what they knew and when about the trafficking. So instead they'll just get rid of him with a lesser less implicating charge.
foldr · 21 days ago
I think this is a misreading of the situation. He’s being arrested because of recently uncovered evidence that he committed a crime. We can all form our own opinions on whether or not Andrew committed rape and/or sexual abuse (without too much difficulty, I assume), but this crime looks like it ought to be a lot easier to prosecute.
throwaway85825 · 20 days ago
It's easy for the royal family to say they didn't know he sent an email. It's hard for them to say they didn't know about the girls, due to their security. This way only andrew goes down.
gib444 · 21 days ago
The crime he was arrested for carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment, but I doubt anyone has ever been given that sentence. It's fodder for the masses to think it's a serious crime
bell-cot · 22 days ago
It would be lovely if the Brits could truly clean house on this issue.

(Sadly, expecting the Yanks to follow their lead on that would be pure fantasy.)

beardyw · 22 days ago
He was in Greggs at the time.
rich_sasha · 21 days ago
It was Pizza Express.
rich_sasha · 21 days ago
It is unreal to me that all the criminal prosecution is only happening to Brits. Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew, likely Peter Mandelson.

In the US..? Epstein tragically was committed suicide, and no other cases are forthcoming.

asdefghyk · 21 days ago
Why has Andrew not been extradited to USA.?

Any commoner would have been sent "quick smart" to face the accusations there in court?

foldr · 21 days ago
The obvious explanation is that none of the men who abused girls via their relationship with Epstein are being prosecuted in the USA. So why should it be surprising that Andrew is not?
asdefghyk · 21 days ago
Ghislaine Maxwell, has said she had never saw Epstein do anything untoward.... She now says, she’ll tell everything?? in exchange for immunity.
FrankWilhoit · 22 days ago
This is how it is done! But it could only have been done with the King's permission. I wonder how he will spin it.
rsynnott · 22 days ago
The thing about a lot of monarchical powers in the UK is that the monarch gets to keep them, provided of course that they only ever use them as prescribed by the government. As to what happens otherwise, well, Charles III won't want to emulate Charles I.

(I'm kind of amazed he chose that name, tbh; it's not particularly uncommon for British monarchs to rename themselves on taking the throne, and it has... baggage.)

jfengel · 21 days ago
While Charles I was a disaster, Charles II is remembered as a patron of the arts and sciences. He restored the British navy, which went on to be the foundation of the Empire.

His personal life was rather too colorful, but a lot of people seem to think positively of that.

I doubt he's anybody's favorite monarch, but his well-respected mother seems to have thought the name was OK.

markx2 · 22 days ago
Official statements have been released that clearly state the King was not informed prior to the arrest.
rich_sasha · 21 days ago
I can't for one minute imagine no one asked "if one were to suspect a member of royal family of [...] and arrested them, what would the King say?"
gib444 · 21 days ago
And there's one thing we've learnt recently is that royals do not lie
asdefghyk · 22 days ago
I think there is a lot more of this story to play out ...

Still seems to be lots more to play out.

Example - Why all the supposed "...rich and powerful names ...." being seemingly protected ?

What do they have to hide ?

foldr · 21 days ago
The Police don’t need the King’s permission to arrest members of the royal family.