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order-matters · 6 days ago
The easiest way to break the mental barrier caused by short form content for me is to remind myself that knowing something is not the final product. The final product is trusting the knowledge and communicating that trust. Any information that finds itself to me without me asking for it is inherently less trustworthy and less communicable than information I hunted for with intention

Short form content feeds are like unloading a dumptruck full of random items into your driveway. Is it actually better if all that stuff you didnt ask for is real information that needs to be organized and pieced together with what you already know without any of the associated context that helps you do that? Or is it better if you know 99% of it is trash and you dont need to remember any of it?

I think a tool like this is great for people who want to use short form content intentionally, and personally that only happens when I am bored and in need of a new topic to research. I think of all short form content like marketing/ads, just showcasing something i might be interested to dig into on my own. It's how i used StumbleUpon website back in the day.

But I have noticed I am rarely using short form content with intention. its because i want to check what my friends have posted, and then with the extra downtime i scroll a little bit, and sometimes get stuck

kykeonaut · 6 days ago
I think what is interesting is that it is not necessarily the content of the brainrot that makes us underperform, but the act of swiping [0] and the context switching [1].

These attempts to make educational short form content still suffer from the same drawbacks, so I wonder how effective they truly are.

[0] https://cyberpsychology.eu/article/view/33099

[1] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/09658211.2025.252107...

dvh · 6 days ago
I think it's "this one is good but if I swipe the next one can be even better", i.e. classic dopamine addiction. Stop digging!
order-matters · 6 days ago
i would place my money on the vast gap between effort and reward. you dont even need to think "if i swipe..." because the thought takes longer than the action. So why would you stop to consider what you might have to gain by swiping when you can literally swipe and find out faster than you can think about it?

Then you go about your regular day and suddenly everything feels harder in comparison. You have to think about what youre doing, you have to coordinate or plan your actions, you have to put work in. The swiping rots your ability to maintain and coordinate your chain of actions.

it weakens your ability to have intent.

cynicalpeace · 6 days ago
A slot machine affect. Viewing our society as an addicted one clarifies most of our social ills.
wmeredith · 6 days ago
This is it. Modern social media is a Skinner box. The context switching is a feature (short term dopamine hit in exchange for deep learning).
sidsud · 6 days ago
I suppose the idea is that if we're gonna be underperforming due to endless swiping and context switching, might as well get stimulated by educational content instead of brainrot. Similar to a nicotine patch to help quit smoking.
abhinai · 6 days ago
This is a very neat idea. I am not sure why the page needs to load 40mb of data and make me wait 5 mins before the first view. I'd probably also add some ranking criteria to surface good quality articles that maximize the "I learnt something new today" factor. Overall kudos to the developer for original thinking.
rwl · 6 days ago
Presumably the 40mb of data is not from Wikipedia, but the Javascript tracking code bundle needed to turn it into a doomscrollable social media feed. ;) By those standards, I think it’s pretty lightweight! For comparison, the Instagram iOS app is 468.9mb, more than ten times the size…
rebane2001 · 6 days ago
The 40MB of data is Wikipedia data, the site itself is 21kB.
isqueiros · 6 days ago
40mb is way too much for a JS bundle... Even with a framework you could do this with 5mb or less.
repeekad · 6 days ago
Now imagine how big the builds are for Instagram's server side doomscrollable feed algorithm, given their inverse incentives to this project.
sampli · 6 days ago
Yeah. Should be able to load in the background once you start scrolling
blinding-streak · 6 days ago
Yeah, the implementation is odd. Cool idea though. Also see:

https://www.wikitok.io/

aizk · 5 days ago
Thanks! That's me :)
modzu · 6 days ago
probably vibe coded
rebane2001 · 6 days ago
I wrote this project by hand in Sublime Text, which is more of a text editor than an IDE. I don't use ai, even for autocomplete.

All of the code is unminified/unobfuscated in the index.html file, you can right click the page and view-source it.

whynotmaybe · 6 days ago
Should that be a criteria for deciding whether it's cool or not?
drivers99 · 6 days ago
I ran across a grammar mistake in one of the entries and clicked into the actual wikipedia entry to fix it. That was satisfying. Imagine being able to do that on social media.
dhosek · 6 days ago
Oh man, there are so many times I find myself wanting to click the edit button on websites that aren’t wikipedia to fix typos or other minor errors.
rebane2001 · 6 days ago
that's really cool!!
pinkmuffinere · 6 days ago
Please fix the loading issue and I’ll return! I think you don’t need to pull all the data at initialization, you could lazily grab a couple from each category and just keep doing it as people scroll.
rebane2001 · 6 days ago
The loading issue is just a hug of death, the site's currently getting multiple visitors per second, and that requires more than a gigabit of bandwidth to handle.

I sort of need to pull all the data at the initialization because I need to map out how every post affects every other - the links between posts are what take up majority of the storage, not the text inside the posts. It's also kind of the only way to preserve privacy.

jedberg · 6 days ago
I think I'm missing something, but does every user get the same 40MB? If so, can you just dump the file on a CDN?
goodmythical · 6 days ago
I feel very strongly that you should be able to serve hundreds or thousands of requests at gbps speeds.

Why are you serving so much data personally instead of just reformatting theirs?

Even if you're serving it locally...I mean a regular 100mbit line should easily support tens or hundreds of text users...

What am I missing?

glenstein · 6 days ago
Love the concept. Wikitok also exists [1] but the recommendation aspect that you're bringing you the table is a very intriguing original spin on it. I would be fascinated to see what a smart algorithm could discover on my behalf on Wikipedia given enough time.

I think it would be nice if you could do a non simple English version but nevertheless happy with what you've put together, and I've added a shortcut to my phone. Please don't let the negativity stop you from continuing to work on it.

1. https://www.wikitok.io/

themikesanto · 5 days ago
Clicked into an article about nuclear weapons and was thinking "wow, the quality of this article is horrible" before I realized it was Simple English Wikipedia. I didn't even know that was a thing.
noonething · 6 days ago
aizk · 5 days ago
Dev here: Unfortunately, that was one thing I never managed to figure out with WikiTok - content filtering. Wikipedia has no categorization of whether or not their articles are NSFW (imagine how much debate that would require for millions of different articles), nor something I could use in their API. That said, anecdotally, I have found the percentage of rather NSFW articles to be quite low all things considered so it's been mostly fine. I think the best option would be to have a quick disclaimer before your scroll, but nobody has seriously asked me for that.
baxtr · 6 days ago
TIL:

The United States Virgin Islands are a group of islands in the Caribbean Sea. They are currently owned and under the authority of the United States Government. They used to be owned by Denmark (and called Danish West Indies). They were sold to the U.S. on January 17, 1917, because of fear that the Germans would capture them and use them as a submarine base in World War I.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islan...

Sharlin · 6 days ago
Yes. The sale has been in the news lately because in that agreement the US formally agreed to cede its interest in Greenland.
0xE1337DAD · 6 days ago
I love the concept. But the long load at startup really kills it. Even clicking off the site and reloading makes me have to go through the download all over again.