> national SHUTDOWN FRI JAN 30 NO WORK. NO SCHOOL. NO SHOPPING. - The people of the Twin Cities have shown the way for the whole country – to stop ICE’s reign of terror, we need to SHUT IT DOWN. On Friday, January 30, join a nationwide day of no school, no work and no shopping.
So servers will still be running and websites, but won't be any people in offices, school, factories, shops, and so on.
As far as I've heard it's being suppressed on most social medias Americans use. I guess what was once "only possible in China" made it way overseas as well.
how do you get from no school/work/shopping to no websites/servers?
Servers perform work. For people. My oven (KitchenAid) is a machine, yet has a setting that makes it non-functional during certain religious events that require people not to work.
Similarly, B&H Photo's web site won't take orders on the Sabbath. They'd rather take the revenue hit than violate their principles.
No, I was clarifying because another commentator seemed to misunderstood that this shutdown was specifically about the EFF and potentially about their website, so probably others could have read it the same way too.
Seriously... If y'all want a general strike, we need:
* 2 weeks' notice to plan
* Conditions for when the strike ends
Assuming this even got enough traction to catch on, one 3-day weekend isn't going to do anything.
This almost feels like "corporate manipulation": Let the slaves "have a day" to cool off and feel like they've accomplished something, then get 'em back in the mines!
Out of those two, I'm guessing the "No Kings" one will be the larger.
> This almost feels like "corporate manipulation":
It is indeed! Manipulating the corporations by showing that people can actually decide to stop working, and it generally scares all the executives because they realize (yet again) that it's actually them who depend on the workers, not the other way around.
This is all strikes. People love to point to the strikes that got us forty hour work weeks and women voting but they forget that the other side has had time to respond. So now we waste our time with this instead - and look at your proposal seriously. What kind of strike give two weeks notice to the entities you're striking against?
I wonder if a large chunk of the population choosing to only buy non-discretionary goods for an extended period of time might freak policy makers out more. Not a targeted boycott. Not a strike still going to work. Lower effort to participate. For example if this caused US Amazon orders to fall by a 1/4 for two weeks and similarly across all retailers.
Low effort to participate isn’t a feature. The point of these kind of actions is to show that there’s a lot of people who are really fired up and won’t be placated or deterred unless policymakers meet their demands.
Sort of? You want something that's going to actually affect the corporations involved. It's not about showing effort, because the government doesn't care how much effort you put in. It's about showing power, making a statement that we "the people" have power and can use it if you don't do what we want. A long-term "nonessentials boycott" might be more impactful in that sense.
I always understood that the very most important thing in any strike is to make it crystal clear what you want. How else are the targets of your strike to understand what you desire, were they in the mood to grant it?
On this webpage, I do not see a clear demand. What specific action or series of actions do they actually demand, and of whom?
This is an unhelpful and poorly explained message on very short notice. What does shutdown even mean? Is the website going down? Are they going to redirect the website? Won't a shutdown only hurt the people that need their services? How exactly is shutting down helping protestors say things are out of control?
Is it? I genuinely don’t know, this is the first thing I’ve heard about a national shutdown and the source link doesn’t point me towards any more information. Is this a nonprofit thing or does it have broader currency? Has it been in the works for a while and I just didn’t hear about it? If I tell my boss I’m going on strike tomorrow morning, will I be one of many or one of one?
But the EFF doesn't provide services to the government; this action will actually benefit the 'offending' government officials by relieving them of the pressure the EFF is intended to effect.
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> national SHUTDOWN FRI JAN 30 NO WORK. NO SCHOOL. NO SHOPPING. - The people of the Twin Cities have shown the way for the whole country – to stop ICE’s reign of terror, we need to SHUT IT DOWN. On Friday, January 30, join a nationwide day of no school, no work and no shopping.
So servers will still be running and websites, but won't be any people in offices, school, factories, shops, and so on.
Servers perform work. For people. My oven (KitchenAid) is a machine, yet has a setting that makes it non-functional during certain religious events that require people not to work.
Similarly, B&H Photo's web site won't take orders on the Sabbath. They'd rather take the revenue hit than violate their principles.
A foreign notion to the tech industry.
Seriously... If y'all want a general strike, we need:
Assuming this even got enough traction to catch on, one 3-day weekend isn't going to do anything.This almost feels like "corporate manipulation": Let the slaves "have a day" to cool off and feel like they've accomplished something, then get 'em back in the mines!
Here you have two more further in the future: https://www.fiftyfifty.one/
> February 17th: Impeach, Convict, Remove, Defund
> March 28th: No Kings
Out of those two, I'm guessing the "No Kings" one will be the larger.
> This almost feels like "corporate manipulation":
It is indeed! Manipulating the corporations by showing that people can actually decide to stop working, and it generally scares all the executives because they realize (yet again) that it's actually them who depend on the workers, not the other way around.
While I fully support this, this irony is a little amusing. By closing they are actually staying silent for a single day.
If they were just staying home, yes, but that's not what they're doing, so they're not "staying silent".
You can find out where everyone is going instead of working here: https://nationalshutdown.org/actions
On this webpage, I do not see a clear demand. What specific action or series of actions do they actually demand, and of whom?
Maybe it’s just people are Mad as Hell and they’re not going to take it anymore!
https://youtu.be/_RujOFCHsxo
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