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Posted by u/pegor a month ago
Show HN: F32 – An Extremely Small ESP32 Boardgithub.com/PegorK/f32...
As part of a little research and also some fun I decided to try my hand at seeing how small of an ESP32 board I can make with functioning WiFi.
jacquesm · 25 days ago
If you add another GPIO and make a silicone mold you could make an in-cable eavesdropper on USB connections that streams out the data via the wifi. That would be a pretty scary tool in the right circumstances.
atemerev · 25 days ago
These cables can be bought for like $200 mostly legally.
tmpfs · a month ago
This is a very cool experiment, even if the board doesn't end up being that practical (the antenna hack is going to be an ongoing issue I think) your documentation looks great at a glance!
pegor · a month ago
Thank you! I agree, antenna definitely needs some improvement.
wkat4242 · 25 days ago
You should take the metal of the USB connector into account. This will significantly alter the emission pattern of the antenna. Try to find a radio amateur in your area, we have equipment to measure and software to predict antennas.
anyg · a month ago
If it is a little bigger to incorporate a bigger chip antenna and some GPIO pins, it is going to be very useful for a lot of IoT projects!!
margalabargala · 25 days ago
The XIAO series of ESP32s is exactly that.

They are 4x the size though, almost exactly double in both length and width.

https://wiki.seeedstudio.com/XIAO_ESP32C3_Getting_Started/

dotancohen · 25 days ago
It's also got 15 times as many GPIO pins as the board in the fine article.

And this PCBA will be smaller than the battery in most applications anyway.

lelanthran · 24 days ago
These are nifty. I've used them in production, but if you want to make used of the charger it's difficult.
sho_hn · 25 days ago
These are quite lovely. Ceramic SMD antennas are awesome.
pegor · 25 days ago
Definitely would be more functional with more of the GPIOs exposed.
forsalebypwner · 25 days ago
If you want an ESP32 dev board with GPIOs exposed there are dozens (or hundreds, maybe thousands) of other options out there. It makes sense not to expose them when you're going for the smallest possible footprint.
PunchyHamster · 25 days ago
there is plenty of those already and not all too hard to make yourself, see LilyGo T01-C3

Its of format of original ESP8 so you get serial + 3 IO pins

venusenvy47 · 24 days ago
Can anyone suggest a small module that supports 5 GHz WiFi?
actinium226 · 25 days ago
Neat! I just sent out an order to JLCPCB for an ESP32 based board. I don't have a rework station or any experience with SMT so I decided to go for their assembly options. It's 80 per board, but would probably be cheaper per board if I got more than 2 (I also have more components on my board than you).

Question about the instructions in your README, you say that once you're done with the top side, repeat for the bottom, but when you're working on the bottom side, what stops the elements on the top side from falling off once the heat passes through the board and melts the solder on that side?

pegor · 25 days ago
Working on the bottom side I only used the heat gun really carefully on the resistors then used a soldering iron with a fine tip for the usb-c connector since the leads are fairly large.
4b11b4 · 25 days ago
Surface tension of solder in liquid state can hold the parts while upside down. Depends on weight of component & geometry of pads
brokenmachine · 25 days ago
"Bottom side must be done using a rework hot air gun, not possible with hotplate."

Basically you're hoping the bottom side doesn't get hot enough for everything to move or fall off.

Rebelgecko · 25 days ago
Really cool. I just ran into a situation where it would be handy to have a small Bluetooth device that plugs into USB-C. However soldering something like this seems a bit beyond me, is there a more turnkey solution?
dotancohen · 25 days ago
The company that printed the PCB, PCBWay, also offers PCBAs. They're really not expensive, though you might need to order in batches of multiples of five.
actinium226 · 25 days ago
JLCPCB also offers assembly and they're much, much cheaper, like an order of magnitude cheaper.
myself248 · 24 days ago
There's no makerspace nearby that could give you access to the tools and supplies to upgrade your skills?
stavros · 25 days ago
This is great, well done! I don't know where I'd use this, but I'd definitely want to use it.
Swannie · 25 days ago
I was thinking "how much smaller than the cheap 30mm x 25mm boards on AliE can you go?" ... much smaller!

Very nice.

selcuka · 25 days ago
FYI XIAOs are 21x18mm.
k__ · 25 days ago
I just learned about XIAO boards from Grok a few days ago, lol.

The Sense versions are pretty rad. Now I only have to add a battery and a touch sensor and I'm good to go.

GardenLetter27 · 24 days ago
Is it powerful enough to run a reverse proxy?