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dismalaf · 6 months ago
Why is the title editorialized? It's an attack on an individual, nothing to do with the current title...
sonderotis · 6 months ago
I am simply referencing. I am just asking why does OSS have to be based around this.
ChrisArchitect · 6 months ago
Title is: Plan Vert - an open letter to the Rails Core team and Ruby community
sonderotis · 6 months ago
I mean currently I see it alot with people trying to make forks of OSS just because of there political stand. I mean the reason to leave software should be because it is bad quality not because of someone. I mean why are you not open to people having different beliefs on something.

So whats next? No software made by christians. I am not trying to justify devs actions but most of these movements act like sofware is used only in US and EU regions. I mean why are you forcing people to move from twitter because you do not like elon musk.

I see this also in the linux community and alot of OSS projects its being pushed.

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dismalaf · 6 months ago
> EU regions

Which ones exactly? I live in an EU country (part time anyway) and DHH's views would be considered centrist at most...

Edit:

> So whats next? No software made by christians.

Well, Matz is a devout Mormon, so hopefully all the crazy people realize this and just leave the Ruby community and ecosystem.

Also, I wish these people would just fork and be done with it. Instead they try to bully others on social media.

sleepyhead · 6 months ago
> DHH's views would be considered centrist at most

That's not very accurate.

sonderotis · 6 months ago
can't pinpoint it. But I simply mentioned countries who have this sort of "left wing" vs "right wing" thing.
JohnFen · 6 months ago
OSS is a bit different because of the lack of profit-making, so I'm excluding that in my comment here.

In general, I don't think there's anything at all wrong with deciding that the goals a person or company is working towards are so objectionable to you that you don't want to contribute to their income streams and thereby support those goals.

dismalaf · 6 months ago
Yeah there's nothing wrong with not supporting people you don't like. Fork and move on.

However what the GitHub repo is an example of is straight up bullying. They're trying to force the Rails org to fall in line...

sonderotis · 6 months ago
I am not saying that if someone has poor leadership skills they should stand all I am saying is it should not be because of their beliefs. I mean why are they referencing his blog posts and not github issues of poorly handled pull requests.

I mean why does the leader have to align with your faith. If this escaletes youll realize that people will discriminate patches of contribution because they came from some who is "muslim" or "christian".

throwmeaway222 · 6 months ago
I mean it's divisive. When you divide people up, it creates more divide and hate. So have fun with that.
cocoricamo · 6 months ago
Because people are idiots and assholes. There are a bunch of radicalized idiots in FLOSS that want to impose their world view on everyone else and then have the balls to call anyone who disagrees fascist, nazi, or whatever term they can come up with.

It's like when they were adding caveats to licenses in the vein of "if you believe this or that then you cannot use my software because you're trash" (paraphrasing, but similar enough).

It's time we end up this shit. FLOSS is supposed to be about contribution and building something that's useful for all of us regardless of our political leaning. Instead we have assholes poisoning the well and idiots that follow them thinking that the monster they're creating is not going to eat them if they clap hard enough.

This comment will probably get flagged but whatever.

amdingo · 6 months ago
I miss when FLOSS was basically apolitical and EVERYONE working towards something that can be used by ANYONE was absent all the purity tests, propaganda and BS.
cocoricamo · 6 months ago
It wasn't apolitical, there were a lot of discussions about the nature and politics of OSS but it was never this radical.

I remember a few fights in a few of my local LUG and communities that were very heated, but never death threats and almost always was online trash talking and in real life going back to being normal people with some snarky comments here and there.

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